Why so much hate for the SC 430?
01-27-09, 07:47 AM
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Well, at least it's something different. I get so tired, when I review vehicles, of looking at the color chips for the paint and seeing the same stuff, car after car. It's almost always the same 6 or 7 colors.......blue, dark red/burgandy, white, silver, gray, and black.
01-27-09, 11:12 AM
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The SC had good numbers back then but those times are over. Even if Lexus made a new SC, it would not sell near what it sold in 2001.
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01-27-09, 02:04 PM
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I hate it since it costs too high for what little hp you get. It is an ugly car as well. That is strictly a personal preference but most of my work peers agree with me. It has the image of a "chick" car.
01-28-09, 11:09 AM
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Sorry but the 6 series convert is disgusting and only matched by recent Acuras for being the ugliest things sold today. The top is a complete fail, its big and soft and ungainly. At least the SC has a top notch interior, the 6 series interior is no better than a Malibu. The 6 has ridiculously long overhangs and retarded headlights and is so overpriced its not funny. It has a nice engine and of course handles better.
01-28-09, 06:15 PM
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People hate what they don't understand.
Seriously, most of the people who give the SC430 their harshest criticism don't even own one. Let alone being able to appreciate this car for what/whom its design is intended to please.
1. No one I have met or know in real life has commented the SC430 as an ugly car. As a matter of fact, most of them wanted to check it out, drive it around and were surprised that this car can be had for less than $25k nowadays.
2. It's been consistent that people I know in real life see my SC400 as an old, beater car and the SC430 as a shiny new (even though it's 5 years old) Lexus. Many of these people actually thought that my SC400 is an old Acura.
3. I've taken 500+ mile long business trips plenty of times in both of my SCs. In terms of comfort the SC430 trumps the SC400, period. The ride comfort of the SC430 is very close to my CL500.
4. Stack up a Mercedes CLS500, S500 or CL500 and run it against the SC430 and see what happens. If being faster than any of these Mercedes is still considered slow to some of you, then I rest my case.
For all I know, many of you can bash on the SC430 all you want. The truth is there are just as many out there who really appreciate this car for what it is.
Jon
1. No one I have met or know in real life has commented the SC430 as an ugly car. As a matter of fact, most of them wanted to check it out, drive it around and were surprised that this car can be had for less than $25k nowadays.
2. It's been consistent that people I know in real life see my SC400 as an old, beater car and the SC430 as a shiny new (even though it's 5 years old) Lexus. Many of these people actually thought that my SC400 is an old Acura.
3. I've taken 500+ mile long business trips plenty of times in both of my SCs. In terms of comfort the SC430 trumps the SC400, period. The ride comfort of the SC430 is very close to my CL500.
4. Stack up a Mercedes CLS500, S500 or CL500 and run it against the SC430 and see what happens. If being faster than any of these Mercedes is still considered slow to some of you, then I rest my case.
For all I know, many of you can bash on the SC430 all you want. The truth is there are just as many out there who really appreciate this car for what it is.
Jon
Obviously there are SL owners who can afford who can afford any car they may choose but made their pick because of their affinity for that car's design. And I think that's the point many of us in this thread are trying to make here. There's nothing wrong with being sentimental for whatever reasons, but to say that the 1 gen SC is better looking or superior to the current one is a joke. It's akin to saying that the previous SL from the 90's is a better car than the the current SL. The same applies for GS owners right here on this forum. For the most part every newer generation car is superior to the outgoing model. It's called evolution. And for that I welcome the next SC to roll out (whenever that happens)
My one wish for the SC is that were more aftermarket mods available. And oh yeah I had to dump those pie plates as soon as I had the opportunity.
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01-28-09, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby///M3
1. No one I have met or know in real life has commented the SC430 as an ugly car. As a matter of fact, most of them wanted to check it out, drive it around and were surprised that this car can be had for less than $25k nowadays.
01-28-09, 11:09 PM
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I don't mind the exterior at all. Its not something to be amazed by but it not ugly at all. Yes the interior is first rate but does need some refresh. Especially the HVAC control. This is the type of vehicle that could serve you very well for at 10 years.
My only concern about it, reliability-wise, is how those so-called "pie-plate" wheels might affect brake cooling and brake life
01-28-09, 11:13 PM
#102
I wouldn't call it horribly ugly like a Pontiac Aztek, but, style-wise, IMO, it is definitely not my cup of tea, though I agree that the interior is first-rate, and it is reliable and well-built. My only concern about it, reliability-wise, is how those so-called "pie-plate" wheels might affect brake cooling and brake life.
01-29-09, 12:28 AM
#103
Never considered it due to lack of manual transmission (though that may change whenever I have the time and resources for a project). Also quite underpowered and boat-like. Needs more options apart from just luxury items.
Otherwise I've always liked it a lot. The interior is stunning and I hardly think the car is ugly.
Otherwise I've always liked it a lot. The interior is stunning and I hardly think the car is ugly.
02-02-09, 07:23 PM
#104
Dude.. the pie plates.. are the reason why i bought this car.. and mine that i bought came with some gay star plates.. I thought the pie plates where unique.. and i loved it .. only if it where 20's i woulda bought the pie plates after
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