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Old 08-14-09, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Och
That being said I do like how Audi and BMW got themselves these signature looks, with angel eyes and LED strips, you can identify them in your rearview mirror miles away. Lexus used to have a signature look with HID/Yellow fog combo, but they gave it up.
hah. and that's why lexus has no identity, and with hyundai biting its style, it's slowly becoming more confusing to identify a lexus on the street

it seems lexus is struggling to find one common design element in its cars.

whereas acura has one, but royally fked it up.

infiniti is starting to have one now, with the Essence being the unifying design. it has the trademark L shaped lights, grille shape, and it seems now they're even unifying the hood curve contours
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Originally Posted by The G Man
The BMW xDrive system uses a set of computerized wet clutch packs to route power. Although BMW calls the X-drive permenent AWD, it is essentially still a "reactive" system, it transfers power faster than the Audi system sue to the wet clutch packs. BMW uses this system to preserve the RWD-like driving dynamic of their vehicles in dry conditions.

The Audi quattro IV system uses a Torsen center differential, which is a mechanical gear set that normally sends power 50-50 front and rear but can "sense" slippage and re-route power to the other end. This is entirely mechanical and happens in real time, so there is no computer feedback loop involved as with the BMW system.

The 50-50 normal split and instant action of the torsen mean that the quattro system will generally offer superior traction in bad weather. This comes at the expense of a slight front-wheel-drive-like driving experience.

Bottom line is, X-drive is better in dry weather and Quattro is better in wet or snow conditions.
this may not be true with the addition of the audi sport rear differential and the somewhat new 40/60 torque split..
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Old 08-14-09, 03:44 PM
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Im certainly dont know much about audi, so what happened to their RS variants? their website only shows the regular models and the S variants.
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Im certainly dont know much about audi, so what happened to their RS variants? their website only shows the regular models and the S variants.
well they are usually 2 year run model's. the new rs6 did not come to north america accept for mexico and the rest of the world, and the rs5 should replace the rs4 next year or the year after
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Originally Posted by Blackraven
In short, two words: TORQUE VECTORING

Audi has its own version of SH-AWD too, its called sport rear differential.
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Originally Posted by The G Man
The BMW xDrive system uses a set of computerized wet clutch packs to route power. Although BMW calls the X-drive permenent AWD, it is essentially still a "reactive" system, it transfers power faster than the Audi system sue to the wet clutch packs. BMW uses this system to preserve the RWD-like driving dynamic of their vehicles in dry conditions.

The Audi quattro IV system uses a Torsen center differential, which is a mechanical gear set that normally sends power 50-50 front and rear but can "sense" slippage and re-route power to the other end. This is entirely mechanical and happens in real time, so there is no computer feedback loop involved as with the BMW system.

The 50-50 normal split and instant action of the torsen mean that the quattro system will generally offer superior traction in bad weather. This comes at the expense of a slight front-wheel-drive-like driving experience.

Bottom line is, X-drive is better in dry weather and Quattro is better in wet or snow conditions.
On a typical audi theyre is a 50/50 split but on the s and rs models it is a 60/40 split to get rid of the under steer and make it more neutral.
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