Galaxy 40

I think c&d just doesn't like the IS-F or could be the drivers they used

bitkahuna

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And the Cadillac CTS-V beat everything that's not a super sports car.

bitkahuna

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Nice work updating that list with that info!!!

DASHOCKER

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I've always been impressed by the CTS-V. Had the pleasure thrashing this car at many GM driving events. Can't wait to drive the new one.

kt22cliff

WHP/weight ratio would've been more informative vs just published crank HP.

LexFather

Thanks newr for the list.

newr

I spent about 1/2 hrs getting that info. Why don't you contribute by getting the weight info... and whola... we have hp/w ratio as you wished.

newr

No prob!..

kt22cliff

Mainly b/c I'm lazy. I didn't mean to suggest you should do all the work to update it. I just meant that while it's certainly not the end all be all of a stat that determine which car performs better at a track - gearing tires brakes and whole host of issues will affect the laptimes not to mention the driver, the whp/weight at quick look would've been more informative than the crank HP figure explaining which car does better.

And let me say thanks for adding info to the list.

newr

I don't know how you came up with that number but my educated guess is this. The IS-F got 3:14.0. Where would you think the mightly IS350 with 2 less cylinders, 100hp less hp, 100 less tq, worse suspension than the IS-F would rank? My guess is about 4-5 seconds behind the IS-F. So the time would be some where in the 3:18.00 - 3:19.00.

The mighty IS350 is slower than the TL-S on the road course. Precisely about 2s behind the TL Type-S on this specific track...
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...cura+tl+type-s

So, my educated guess is that the TL Type-S would be in the 3:16.00 -3:17.00



Where did you come up with that number again? out of thin air just like your other claims?

Please do not ruin this thread like you have ruined the others. PLEASE

newr

I agree with you that is why I did this instead of doing this and this . There are other factors too like you said, but Hp/weight would have been more informative than just hp.

ST430

Some more info for ya'll to deliberate...typical and record VIR track times (full course):

Datsun 510 *Full Course 2:33
BMW E30 *Full Course 2:29
2000 Porsche Boxster S *Full Course 2:24
2001 Porsche Boxster S, RA-1 *Full Course 2:17
2005 Dodge Viper *Full Course M. Simons 2:22
1993 Mazda RX7 *Full Course P. Hahn 2:12
1993 Mazda Miata, 1.8L w/SC *Full Course rrroadster 2:22
1995 BMW M3 I-prepared *Full Course E. Hardcastle 2.15
2007 Mazda RX-8 (Stock on Azenis) *Full M. F. 2:28

Overall Track Record
Paul Girrard - AMS Performance TA1 Mitsubishi Evolution VIII - 1:57.976 @ GT Live 2007

Overall Modified Class Record
Scott Bush - GTSPEC / Relentless Autosports Nissan 350Z - 2:09.638 @ GT Live 2007

Front Wheel Drive Record
Kevin Helms - Hondaworks Honda Civic - 2:10.620 @ GT Live 2007

Unlimited RWD Record
Bill Washburn - Dent Sport Nissan 240SX - 2:13.793 @ GT Live 2007

Modified AWD Record
Chad Koslow - EvoDynasty.com Mitsubishi Evolution VIII - 2:11.444 @ GT Live 2007

Modified FWD Record
Don Hill - 1992 Honda Civic - 2:14.901 @ GT Live 2007

EZZ

Shame Toyota doesn't have a single car there whereas other Japanese makes dominate.

doug_999

And I'll bet each of them can out drive almost everyone on this board......

next topic...
Funny how everyone thinks the magazine is toilet paper and yet they always seem to comment on all of the articles (to the rag that they don't subscribe to). Guys, if you think their stuff is trash, don't read it and save us your comments.

LexFather

The TL beat the IS in one test and it is suddenly the better track car?

I don't think so. Its AMAZING how many Honda/Acura guys point out this one test and fail to mention every other single review.

Wow.

The FUNNIER part is while we have tons of guys here taking their IS to the roadcourse, I don't recall any TL-S owners doing the same.