Toyota increases stake in Fuji Heavy Industries by 17 percent
06-29-08, 08:31 PM
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As one of CL's biggest Subaru fans, this is just about the last thing I wanted to hear. 
Since Toyota first started calling some of the shots, new Subaru designs, IMO, have, overall, gone downhill.
Since Toyota first started calling some of the shots, new Subaru designs, IMO, have, overall, gone downhill.
06-29-08, 08:34 PM
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You sure it is only oil-related? 1999-2002 non-turbo 2.5's (if that includes yours) were notorious for head gasket failures. That, in some circumstances, could allow oil and coolant to mix and leak out.
06-30-08, 01:02 AM
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Edit: Whatever idiot replaced the oil last (me) didnt check the old oil filter to see if the seal was still around it. Apparently it got stuck, wedged up against the new filer and created a double seal that held for 2,000 miles. No damage was done to the engine. And Im getting a new timing belt for $375 which I thought was a good deal.
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06-30-08, 05:12 AM
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06-30-08, 07:21 AM
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Having had some contact and discussion with with Fuji (Subaru) reps, I'm not sure I buy that arguement. New 2008 and 2009 Subies, especially Foresters/Imprezas (Foresters especially), are starting to show the same cost-cutting and overly-plastic interiors that many new Toyota products have. I don't think that's a co-incidence.
That is why I am seriously considering replacing my own Outback with a late-model 2008 or 2009 before they redesign them for 2010 and screw THEM up too. The present Outback is simply superb, and I can only see them going downhill for the next-gen model.
That is why I am seriously considering replacing my own Outback with a late-model 2008 or 2009 before they redesign them for 2010 and screw THEM up too. The present Outback is simply superb, and I can only see them going downhill for the next-gen model.
06-30-08, 09:36 AM
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Interiors maybe but that's an industry trend, almost every company is going with harder plastic materials so Toyota is not alone (have you seen the new Accord, the interior quality is night and day compares to my '97 Accord).
To be honest, I would love to see Toyota gain some influence in Subaru for its exterior design. The new Impreza couldn't look any more dull and the Forester did not exactly set the world on fire either. With the way it is going I am really afraid to see the redesigned Legacy, which in my opinion is one of the best looking mid-size sedans inside and out currently on the market.
Maybe Subie designer can take some cues from the L-Finesse philosophy and develop a more sportier version for Subaru.
To be honest, I would love to see Toyota gain some influence in Subaru for its exterior design. The new Impreza couldn't look any more dull and the Forester did not exactly set the world on fire either. With the way it is going I am really afraid to see the redesigned Legacy, which in my opinion is one of the best looking mid-size sedans inside and out currently on the market.
Maybe Subie designer can take some cues from the L-Finesse philosophy and develop a more sportier version for Subaru.
06-30-08, 09:49 AM
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i doubt toyota has influenced any of Subarus vehicles - they had acquired small stake last year... you will see first products with input from toyota in 2010 or so...
07-06-08, 01:42 PM
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07-06-08, 04:28 PM
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I could not even say when I last saw a Soo, Ba ooh as my friend calls them on a road out here in California. Most likely due to I don't pay much attention to them. Cept they did have one model many years back with the different side windows and was pretty slick. Can't recall the model at this time.
I see Subarus all over; ALL OVER. I guess you don't pay attention to other cars much or California people don't like them for some reason *shrug*
diesel technology? Subaru started selling their first diesel 3 months ago, and Toyota has currently around 5-6 different series of diesel engines, including 1.4l, 2.0l, 2.2l, 3.0l, 4.5l... Toyota sells 4x more diesels every year than Subaru does cars 
What they bought it for is expansion - Toyota is lacking engineers and factories...
What they bought it for is expansion - Toyota is lacking engineers and factories...
You misunderstand. It is Fuji Heavy Industries that they bought stake in; Subaru is a part of that. Fuji sells A LOT of diesel engines; most are in heavy industry though. You can't deny their experience in designing heavy duty parts though; which is what Toyota wants.
And yeah, I agree they bought it for a good bit of expansion room. May have something to do with batteries as well.
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