Do you need to use hubcentric rings?
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Do you need to use hubcentric rings?
The Konig Rated R wheels that I took off my old Acura Legend actually fit the LS 400 that I am driving right now. The only problem is that the bore of the wheel is larger than the hub on the car. Would it be bad to drive with all the weight distributed just on the lugs? Could they possibly break? I have a set of hubcentric rings but I dont know if they are the right size.
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Agreed, get the rings.
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you do not NEED those rings. They DO NOT support the weight of the car. Their only purpose is to help center the wheel BEFORE the lug nuts are tighten. Even without the rings, the wheel will center itself once you start tightening the lugs.
I had these rings for my aftermarket rims and only after a few hot laps, they all melted.
I had these rings for my aftermarket rims and only after a few hot laps, they all melted.
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How so?
The contact area between the rim and the lug nuts have a matching angle. Once all the lug nuts are torqued equally and sit tight in the holes, the wheel should be centered. Now, I've explained why I think the hubcentric rings are not needed. Why don't you explain yours instead of calling me name?.
The contact area between the rim and the lug nuts have a matching angle. Once all the lug nuts are torqued equally and sit tight in the holes, the wheel should be centered. Now, I've explained why I think the hubcentric rings are not needed. Why don't you explain yours instead of calling me name?.
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I've always used the star pattern and torque my lugs to spec, but there are times when I will have small vibrations that are fixed by using hub rings.
Lug centric do not work as well as hub centric since the conical seat on the wheels do not guarantee a match every single time for every lug there are. In theory, it should work, but when you have 4 or 5 lugs you reduce the chance of having it perfectly centered.
I have found in my own GS that if I put the OEM wheels onto my car, the lugs and seating on the wheels are near perfect, but not completely perfect.
Most companies who say you dont need hub rings are those who sell wheels without them. Those who say you need hub rings are those who sells wheels with them.
In the end, the rings are so cheap to buy that it's probably wouldn't hurt to buy a set. I'm going to email a few wheel companies out there to see if I can pick up some scientific evidence as for why lug centric is not always perfect and hub centric is preferred.
Lug centric do not work as well as hub centric since the conical seat on the wheels do not guarantee a match every single time for every lug there are. In theory, it should work, but when you have 4 or 5 lugs you reduce the chance of having it perfectly centered.
I have found in my own GS that if I put the OEM wheels onto my car, the lugs and seating on the wheels are near perfect, but not completely perfect.
Most companies who say you dont need hub rings are those who sell wheels without them. Those who say you need hub rings are those who sells wheels with them.
In the end, the rings are so cheap to buy that it's probably wouldn't hurt to buy a set. I'm going to email a few wheel companies out there to see if I can pick up some scientific evidence as for why lug centric is not always perfect and hub centric is preferred.
Last edited by GSteg; 05-01-08 at 01:32 PM.
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If the OP decided to pickup the rings, I would recommend the metal ones as the polyurethane ones I had could not handle the heat and melted.
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I've always had great success with metal hub rings. Never had them freeze or get stuck before. Then again, I take off my rims often enough to keep anything from freezing up. Get tge hub rings. They are cheap. I bought my set off a vendor on ebay. Just told him what OD and ID I needed and for what rims and car it were for and they mailed me the correct set.