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02-06-08, 08:26 PM
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"But let’s not forget that when shopping in this segment, performance figures are not a buyer’s first priority."
And fuel economy is? Ok...
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02-07-08, 01:04 AM
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7.3 sec is not bad.. but not if you're calling it an S400. (so a supposed 4.0 litre engine)
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02-07-08, 06:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rosskoss
"But let’s not forget that when shopping in this segment, performance figures are not a buyer’s first priority."
And fuel economy is? Ok...
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I thought the same thing. Then why do we have all of these S8s, S600s, 760s, etc.?
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Who says hybrids have no benefit on the highway?
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02-07-08, 07:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SLegacy99
I thought the same thing. Then why do we have all of these S8s, S600s, 760s, etc.?
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Europe and Asia would love this.
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02-07-08, 09:21 AM
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While not a rocket, I think this could definitely appeal to some buyers.
While a technical marvel and a very quiet quick and smooth large car, the LS600hL fails as an environmentally friendly machine (way too heavy and lousy fuel economy).
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02-07-08, 09:22 AM
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boring. 
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02-07-08, 10:04 AM
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resisting entropy
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You drive an LS430, right? 
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02-07-08, 12:11 PM
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so is it still going be developed with Lotus?
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02-07-08, 02:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SLegacy99
I thought the same thing. Then why do we have all of these S8s, S600s, 760s, etc.?
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02-07-08, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
You drive an LS430, right? |
LS400 at the moment...its not boring at all 
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02-07-08, 09:18 PM
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I do think that this would be a popular car in America. I've been saying for awhile that the GS450h is the car my dad wants, but he'd prefer a little less speed and a little more fuel economy. I am willing to bet that he isn't the only one that feels that way.
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'99 Legacy Limited 5MT (1 of 528 ever produced)
Mom's got the RX400h - currently averaging 30.2 mpg (A/C on)
Who says hybrids have no benefit on the highway?
Bro has IS300
Dads got IS 250 AWD
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02-08-08, 10:58 AM
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Yeah.. and the price too... ESh!!!
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07-29-09, 10:37 AM
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EPA officially rates Mercedes S400 hybrid at 19/26
There was some conversation in earlier threads that the S400 would obtain over 30MPG on the highway but the EPA has released their ratings for the car and they are 19 city/26 highway, and 21MPG combined.
Earlier thread here: http://www.clublexus.com/forums/car-...road-test.html
Source for EPA testing: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/compx...Field=Findacar
To me, these are relatively unspectacular numbers considering the Li-Ion technology and lack of horsepower. The LS 600hL is rated at 20/22 and has far more power and the "older" Nickel Metal Hydride batteries, and AWD. The real world numbers will be interesting but it looks to me like the S550 and LS 460 can easily beat the mileage ratings of their hybrid brothers, though I am not sure if the LSh or Sh is better in real world driving.
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07-29-09, 11:07 AM
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Lexus Champion
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That's very, very weak. I wouldn't buy one, when you could get a much quicker, 30 Grand cheaper, LS460 and only sacrafice 2 MPG.
Mercedes = Honda of Germany.
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'99 Legacy Limited 5MT (1 of 528 ever produced)
Mom's got the RX400h - currently averaging 30.2 mpg (A/C on)
Who says hybrids have no benefit on the highway?
Bro has IS300
Dads got IS 250 AWD
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07-29-09, 11:17 AM
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lexus NMH batteries won't last as long. unless you plan to get rid of the car after a few years, then it wouldn't matter
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