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Originally Posted by AdrianXT
Yup. It's important for people to compare apples to apples and keep trims and equipment levels in perspective.
I obviously just made up pricing in my post, which I think is logical, and actually tracks some other cars out there pretty closely.
Someone might say, but at $29K, the Genesis coupe has a V6. So what? If the Toyotabaru comes with a high-output NA boxer as is expected, it's acceleration should be comparable to a V6 Genesis, but will of course out-handle it and probably get better MPG. Also, a high-output boxer in a small, lightweight coupe will surely be more entertaining than a relatively middle-of-the-road V6 in a relatively not-lightweight coupe. Also, in order to get a 2.0L NA boxer at or above 200HP, it will require some nifty technology and machining, which will make it more expensive than, say a Hyundai V6, which contains less technology and is made in far larger quantities.
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At 29k the genesis has a 300+hp V6 that competes with the Nissan Z....
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10-06-09, 04:08 PM
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p.s.
Those of you fussing about a 2.0 boxer being able to make 200hp...
197hp.... NA
And btw, The Legacy 2.0R already has 187hp as well (@7100 rpm)
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10-06-09, 04:09 PM
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If you can't see well enough
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10-06-09, 04:13 PM
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This better be like a hardtop S2000.
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10-06-09, 04:16 PM
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And the modding begins lol........
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yeahhh now thats hot
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10-06-09, 05:24 PM
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The Subaru 2.0L is the greatest engine. We last saw in the U.S. in the 2005 WRX. Subaru then upgraded to the 2.5L turbo which produced more HP and torque while consuming the same amount of fuel. That being said, I'm sure this engine has changed since then. Especially if it is being fitted with direct injection and I would assume a 6MT.
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10-06-09, 05:49 PM
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Best looking Toyota design since the Supra.
If it looks close to this it will sell in bunches...
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10-06-09, 06:11 PM
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One thing I've been trying to visualize, this car is supposedly quite compact and small...as it should be, but in real life that should be readily apparent. If as Akio Toyoda says, this is the first in a line of such vehicles, I can imagine a Supra-sized companion to the FT-86 down the road...
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10-06-09, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by encore888
One thing I've been trying to visualize, this car is supposedly quite compact and small...as it should be, but in real life that should be readily apparent. If as Akio Toyoda says, this is the first in a line of such vehicles, I can imagine a Supra-sized companion to the FT-86 down the road...
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*crosses fingers* 
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10-06-09, 06:32 PM
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Wow, yeah, a Supra with a 3.5L that looks like this would be so nice. 
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10-06-09, 06:59 PM
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wow, great looking car. can't wait until we get more info.
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10-06-09, 07:49 PM
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From this day forward the prefix FT will be known as the Fujiwara Tofu shop!
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10-06-09, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by encore888
One thing I've been trying to visualize, this car is supposedly quite compact and small...as it should be, but in real life that should be readily apparent. If as Akio Toyoda says, this is the first in a line of such vehicles, I can imagine a Supra-sized companion to the FT-86 down the road...
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Why do you think it has some FT-HS styling cues  ? I'm sure that is no coincidence .
The FT-HS also has quite different dimensions than this car. The FT-HS is actually wider and overall a larger car, although it's roof is almost as low. Compared to this, the FT-HS also has side air intakes indicating it is a more serious performance car.
I think the signs are good that the FT-HS will make it to production.
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10-06-09, 07:57 PM
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I lol'ed at that. A lot.
Car looks like a blast! Can't wait to actually see one. Bet it will be easy to swap a turbo boxer in there, too. God bless you Subaru!
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10-06-09, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MR_F1
p.s.
Those of you fussing about a 2.0 boxer being able to make 200hp...
197hp.... NA
And btw, The Legacy 2.0R already has 187hp as well (@7100 rpm)
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Also to those worried about the car's power, this is not a regular version of Subaru's EJ20. This has been reworked and updated by Toyota. It's got a new cylinder head design, and it also has direct injection. Both fuel economy and performance is said to be increased from the regular EJ20. Achieving 200HP or more should be no problem.
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stock turbo, headers, & intercooler 
Working on it.
