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Old 02-27-08, 11:57 PM
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that article doesnt make sense
FT-HS was introduced like almost a year ago
why is it still saying that
The car manufacturer launched its Future Toyota Hybrid Sports (FT-HS) concept today
does that site have really lazy editors or something?
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^^^^or something out of the anime/manga realm.

Needs to be a lot prettier, the back end is cool but....not something I would consider buying.

I can understand Toyota going with hybrids as they have made a commitment to their refinement and the fact that it's "insta-torque" but, nothing is cooler than a turbo.
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Concept car or not... that thing is disgusting...
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Wow that looks nasty. I would hate to see what those sharp edges could if I were to ever get hit by an FT-HS
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Default Toyota exec says FT-HS could be ‘Supra of the future’

Toyota exec says FT-HS could be ‘Supra of the future’

Posted on Thursday 28 February 2008


Toyota’s FT-HS hybrid sports car concept has long been rumoured to be the precursor to the next-generation Mark V Supra but until now we’ve never had any official confirmation or even a suggestion that the two cars are in fact related. Now, on the eve of the Melbourne Motor Show, where the FT-HS will be on display, Toyota exec Peter Evans hinted at the possibility of the FT-HS becoming the Supra.

Speaking at the Australian launch of the car, Evans described the FT-HS as a “’Prius on steroids.” He then added that “it could be a vision for a Toyota Supra of the future.” The FT-HS name itself stands for Future Toyota Hybrid Sports and there’s no reason it couldn’t be the successor to the Supra.

The concept was developed by Toyota’s Calty research and design centre in California and was first displayed at last year’s Detroit Auto Show.

Like previous Supras, the FT-HS is a two door sports coupe with a front mounted engine and RWD layout. Unlike past versions, the concept features an advanced 400hp hybrid powertrain, combining a 197hp electric motor with a 292hp 3.5L petrol V6. In fact, the powertrain of the FT-HS shares a lot in common with Lexus’ GS450h, giving hope that it could eventually make its way into a new sports car.
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^^"Unlike past versions, the concept features an advanced 400hp hybrid powertrain, combining a 197hp electric motor with a 292hp 3.5L petrol V6. In fact, the powertrain of the FT-HS shares a lot in common with Lexus’ GS450h, giving hope that it could eventually make its way into a new sports car."

Seems that both the electric motor and the gas engine are the same, then what's different in the FT-HS to make them generate a combined output of 400hp instead of just 339hp as in the GS450h? Can anyone guess?
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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
^^"Unlike past versions, the concept features an advanced 400hp hybrid powertrain, combining a 197hp electric motor with a 292hp 3.5L petrol V6. In fact, the powertrain of the FT-HS shares a lot in common with Lexus’ GS450h, giving hope that it could eventually make its way into a new sports car."

Seems that both the electric motor and the gas engine are the same, then what's different in the FT-HS to make them generate a combined output of 400hp instead of just 339hp as in the GS450h? Can anyone guess?
Battery.

The motors in Lexus hybrids have high hp potential, but not enough power is fed to allow them to develop that (probably for heat reasons well..who knows). For example, the electric motor in the LS600h has a rating of 221hp, but it only generates about 57.....
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I am curious as to what a hybrid with say a 2.0L turbo would be look. Smaller displacement, but still got the power for when you need it plus the power of the electric motor.
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I am curious as to what a hybrid with say a 2.0L turbo would be look. Smaller displacement, but still got the power for when you need it plus the power of the electric motor.
You mean the Subaru B5-TPH concept. Wish they'd go forward with it too now that it's partly in Toyota's hand.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=107407


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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
^^"Unlike past versions, the concept features an advanced 400hp hybrid powertrain, combining a 197hp electric motor with a 292hp 3.5L petrol V6. In fact, the powertrain of the FT-HS shares a lot in common with Lexus’ GS450h, giving hope that it could eventually make its way into a new sports car."

Seems that both the electric motor and the gas engine are the same, then what's different in the FT-HS to make them generate a combined output of 400hp instead of just 339hp as in the GS450h? Can anyone guess?
The engine output. It's 292hp compared to 253hp on the GS450h. The battery will probably make up the remaining hp.
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Originally Posted by Nextourer
The engine output. It's 292hp compared to 253hp on the GS450h. The battery will probably make up the remaining hp.
No, the gas engine generates 292hp on the GS450h too. Toyota hasn't readied the Li-ion-battery-based hybrid system either so I kinda doubt if batteries in the FT-HS are so much better that it makes the same electric motor (keep in mind that the peak output of its electric motor is identical to that of the GS450h at 197hp) generate that much more combined output.

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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
No, the gas engine generates 292hp on the GS450h too. Toyota hasn't readied the Li-ion-battery-based hybrid system either so I kinda doubt if batteries in the FT-HS are so much better that it makes the same electric motor (keep in mind that the peak output of its electric motor is identical to that of the GS450h at 197hp) generate that much more combined output.
OK, here's my theory. The FT-HS has a better eCVT, namely the one invented by the joint venture of Chrysler, GM and BMW!
http://www.leftlanenews.com/chrysler...id-system.html

It has four fixed gears instead of one so that the electric motors will still be effective in high RPM ranges unlike the current HSD. With the gas engine generating its peak output at high RPM this new transmission will help generate a much higher combined output. What do you think?

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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
OK, here's my theory. The FT-HS has a better eCVT, namely the one invented by the join venture of Chrysler, GM and BMW!
http://www.leftlanenews.com/chrysler...id-system.html

It has four fixed gears instead of one so that the electric motors will still be effective in high RPM ranges unlike the current HSD. With the gas engine generating its peak output at high RPM this new transmission will help generate a much higher combined output. What do you think?
That is pretty cool. Took me a while to understand it.
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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
You mean the Subaru B5-TPH concept. Wish they'd go forward with it too now that it's partly in Toyota's hand.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=107407


Oh seriously! I was bumbed when they cancelled this. I mean they have Li Ion battery technology already developed. I wish that they'd put this car to production simply because they could use a small car. Throw the 1.5L in there standard and offer the 2.0L as an upgrade.



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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
No, the gas engine generates 292hp on the GS450h too. Toyota hasn't readied the Li-ion-battery-based hybrid system either so I kinda doubt if batteries in the FT-HS are so much better that it makes the same electric motor (keep in mind that the peak output of its electric motor is identical to that of the GS450h at 197hp) generate that much more combined output.
Yeah you're right. 253 is kW not hp and that was the net hp.
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