Is it really that hard to design a tailamp that works?
04-04-06, 04:01 PM
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Is it really that hard to design a tailamp that works?
Being that I am the one that started this thread, I won't name basically the 3 car brands I noticed that seemingly can't get a tailamp to work as they'll cry I am bashing.
But I have noticed over the years, there are 3 luxury brands that can't keep a tailamp on if their life depended on it. And for the matter one of them can't design fog lamps either, one is always off or its so dim, not even sure why they have it. Also, I noticed this same brands HIDs don't work either.
IMO, its ridiulous and DANGEROUS when your car's tailamps or brakelamps or both don't work or some of the lights don't work etc etc.
I rarely, ever have notice a Lexus with this problem. And if it is 9 times outta 10 its an older 2ES 300.
This probably is a supplier issue, I doubt the car brand makes the bulbs. So how about not squeezing them so tight where they can produce a quality bulb.
I must say the most ridiuclous thing I saw was on the later year Saturn L-series. These idiots not only have the rear turn signal red like the brake signal but its located in the INSIDE of the light, towards to tag.
I nearly rear-ended one. The damn turn signal is in the TOTALLY WRONG place.
But I have noticed over the years, there are 3 luxury brands that can't keep a tailamp on if their life depended on it. And for the matter one of them can't design fog lamps either, one is always off or its so dim, not even sure why they have it. Also, I noticed this same brands HIDs don't work either.
IMO, its ridiulous and DANGEROUS when your car's tailamps or brakelamps or both don't work or some of the lights don't work etc etc.
I rarely, ever have notice a Lexus with this problem. And if it is 9 times outta 10 its an older 2ES 300.
This probably is a supplier issue, I doubt the car brand makes the bulbs. So how about not squeezing them so tight where they can produce a quality bulb.
I must say the most ridiuclous thing I saw was on the later year Saturn L-series. These idiots not only have the rear turn signal red like the brake signal but its located in the INSIDE of the light, towards to tag.
I nearly rear-ended one. The damn turn signal is in the TOTALLY WRONG place.
04-04-06, 04:51 PM
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Actually the 2nd gen GS 98 - 00 have a problem with the upper outer bulbs in about 20% of the cars I see at night on the road. Looks like _o o_ . Drives me nuts.
04-04-06, 05:24 PM
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volkswagon and audis always have a light out, all the time, almost every one of them. Bmw does as well (i have them so I know, not bashing) and I cant think of the third your thinking of right now. The vw/audis have the biggest problem with this though, mostly on jettas, beetles, and a4s. As for design, it is a pain when they blink red. It is proven that the human brain responds better to amber lighting which results in faster reaction times, that is why they should keep with the orange.
04-04-06, 06:25 PM
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GM always has problems having both DRLs on. I always see them with only one DRL light working.
Lexus, has by far the best tail lights and head lights, IMO. The overall spread on the headlights is far superior that of MB and BMW. The horizontal spread is good too. I saw an LS430 and the head lights went out almost 30-50ft left and right.
Lexus, has by far the best tail lights and head lights, IMO. The overall spread on the headlights is far superior that of MB and BMW. The horizontal spread is good too. I saw an LS430 and the head lights went out almost 30-50ft left and right.
04-04-06, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jhenty
volkswagon and audis always have a light out, all the time, almost every one of them. Bmw does as well (i have them so I know, not bashing) and I cant think of the third your thinking of right now. The vw/audis have the biggest problem with this though, mostly on jettas, beetles, and a4s. As for design, it is a pain when they blink red. It is proven that the human brain responds better to amber lighting which results in faster reaction times, that is why they should keep with the orange.
04-04-06, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RX_330
GM always has problems having both DRLs on. I always see them with only one DRL light working.
Lexus, has by far the best tail lights and head lights, IMO. The overall spread on the headlights is far superior that of MB and BMW. The horizontal spread is good too. I saw an LS430 and the head lights went out almost 30-50ft left and right.
Lexus, has by far the best tail lights and head lights, IMO. The overall spread on the headlights is far superior that of MB and BMW. The horizontal spread is good too. I saw an LS430 and the head lights went out almost 30-50ft left and right.
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04-05-06, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jhenty
I cant think of the third your thinking of right now.
04-05-06, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveGS4
Actually the 2nd gen GS 98 - 00 have a problem with the upper outer bulbs in about 20% of the cars I see at night on the road. Looks like _o o_ . Drives me nuts.
anyway, i have said this before, but i think the prev gen camry (the early yrs with top and bottom portion of red) must have some problems coz' i keep on seeing blown bulbs in them on the street
04-05-06, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Leets
I'm gonna guess Mercedes. I can't remember the last time I saw a Benz with properly functioning taillights... and living in Orange County I see them on a daily basis. At least half of all the Mercedes I see on the road for some reason have all three stop light locations lit up at all times. Now I don't mind seeing the occasional burnt out bulb, but it's just wrong watching a car quickly accelerate while the third brake light is fully lit.
04-05-06, 09:38 AM
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Leets, are you sure they just didn't leave the rear fog light on? People do that all the time here
VW's apparently aren't very snug in the housing, so the bulbs get jostled around quite a bit and the constant impact blows out the filaments, is how it was explained to me. Same with the DRL's on the Chevy's. However, the taillights on the Trailblazers/Yukons etc is apparently the result of a bad circuitboard that controls it.
I agree with this though... I read a statistic before that only 40% of vehicles on the road have properly functioning brake/taillights. I see Ford Focuses ALL the time with no taillights, or blown out brake lights, etc.
VW's apparently aren't very snug in the housing, so the bulbs get jostled around quite a bit and the constant impact blows out the filaments, is how it was explained to me. Same with the DRL's on the Chevy's. However, the taillights on the Trailblazers/Yukons etc is apparently the result of a bad circuitboard that controls it.
I agree with this though... I read a statistic before that only 40% of vehicles on the road have properly functioning brake/taillights. I see Ford Focuses ALL the time with no taillights, or blown out brake lights, etc.