IS250 stolen
02-18-06, 04:44 AM
#46
Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
Yeah most car companies including Lexus use the KEELOQ code hopping technology which theives have already figured out.
This is true for all immobilizers on the market, so I really dont know what you are talking about at all.
02-18-06, 01:45 PM
#47
Originally Posted by spwolf
lol, you can not turn on the car. Do you even know much about it? You have to register the damn key. It has nothing to do with keyless entry at all, it is separate system. Even if you get the code, you cant turn on the car with that code, you have to register the key with the car. Code is only usable for keyless entry system. I am not convinced at all that code is easy to grab.
This is true for all immobilizers on the market, so I really dont know what you are talking about at all.
This is true for all immobilizers on the market, so I really dont know what you are talking about at all.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/29/na...er=rssuserland
http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...46#post3888346
Last edited by DASHOCKER; 02-18-06 at 01:54 PM.
02-18-06, 05:10 PM
#48
Originally Posted by DASHOCKER
I know about this stuff since my cousin has been in the auto security business for 20 plus years. Unfortunately, there may be more stories like our buddy here for those who will rely soley on the stock alarm. Believe it that there are car theft rings out there that are quite sophisticated, and the tools they use to get vehicles will amaze you. Maybe this will open your eyes Don't want to see felow members cars jacked.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/29/na...er=rssuserland
http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...46#post3888346
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/29/na...er=rssuserland
http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...46#post3888346
To turn on the car, you need to have all 3 things covered, I explained above. You simply dont walk in and enter, and drive off the car without having the keys. Article that you linked to - IS300 - is perfect example what happens when professionals plan the theft and car is left unsecured. It certainly did not happen in 5 minutes though.
Other article presumes a lot of things, such as thieves having access to keys and being able to have full car worth of equipment to decode things. You are also assuming that new Lexus's are using 40bit encryption, which is not true, so this article does not apply at all.
If anyone really wants to be secure, several things are reccomended:
1. Never ever leave your key with anyone. most cars are stolen with original keys these days.
2. Install alarm system with:
- radar/proximity sensor
- battery backup in alarm
- battery backup in siren (very important)
- two way pager
- get an alarm that will alert you when new key is programmed (CG series for example)
- GPS tracking if possible
3. be very careful where you: park, valet, wash you car.
Keep in mind that alarms are not that good at protecting your car from theft. However, alarms are theft detterents. They will alert you that something is happening. Like someone towing off your car so they can work on it in peace :-). And most thieves will find another car without alarm to work on.
Make sure you have battery backup siren, not only alarm. If your siren is not battery backup (only alarm), then someone can still disable your siren within 10 seconds. Pager helps in any situations since it alarts you something is going on even if siren is disabled. Proximity radar is an easy way to tell thief your car has alarm.
02-19-06, 04:32 AM
#49
Originally Posted by spwolf
I own aftermarket alarm shop. I am all for extra security. But you are telling things left and right ;-).
To turn on the car, you need to have all 3 things covered, I explained above. You simply dont walk in and enter, and drive off the car without having the keys. Article that you linked to - IS300 - is perfect example what happens when professionals plan the theft and car is left unsecured. It certainly did not happen in 5 minutes though.
Other article presumes a lot of things, such as thieves having access to keys and being able to have full car worth of equipment to decode things. You are also assuming that new Lexus's are using 40bit encryption, which is not true, so this article does not apply at all.
If anyone really wants to be secure, several things are reccomended:
1. Never ever leave your key with anyone. most cars are stolen with original keys these days.
2. Install alarm system with:
- radar/proximity sensor
- battery backup in alarm
- battery backup in siren (very important)
- two way pager
- get an alarm that will alert you when new key is programmed (CG series for example)
- GPS tracking if possible
3. be very careful where you: park, valet, wash you car.
Keep in mind that alarms are not that good at protecting your car from theft. However, alarms are theft detterents. They will alert you that something is happening. Like someone towing off your car so they can work on it in peace :-). And most thieves will find another car without alarm to work on.
Make sure you have battery backup siren, not only alarm. If your siren is not battery backup (only alarm), then someone can still disable your siren within 10 seconds. Pager helps in any situations since it alarts you something is going on even if siren is disabled. Proximity radar is an easy way to tell thief your car has alarm.
To turn on the car, you need to have all 3 things covered, I explained above. You simply dont walk in and enter, and drive off the car without having the keys. Article that you linked to - IS300 - is perfect example what happens when professionals plan the theft and car is left unsecured. It certainly did not happen in 5 minutes though.
Other article presumes a lot of things, such as thieves having access to keys and being able to have full car worth of equipment to decode things. You are also assuming that new Lexus's are using 40bit encryption, which is not true, so this article does not apply at all.
If anyone really wants to be secure, several things are reccomended:
1. Never ever leave your key with anyone. most cars are stolen with original keys these days.
2. Install alarm system with:
- radar/proximity sensor
- battery backup in alarm
- battery backup in siren (very important)
- two way pager
- get an alarm that will alert you when new key is programmed (CG series for example)
- GPS tracking if possible
3. be very careful where you: park, valet, wash you car.
Keep in mind that alarms are not that good at protecting your car from theft. However, alarms are theft detterents. They will alert you that something is happening. Like someone towing off your car so they can work on it in peace :-). And most thieves will find another car without alarm to work on.
Make sure you have battery backup siren, not only alarm. If your siren is not battery backup (only alarm), then someone can still disable your siren within 10 seconds. Pager helps in any situations since it alarts you something is going on even if siren is disabled. Proximity radar is an easy way to tell thief your car has alarm.
03-09-06, 09:00 AM
#55
Lexus Test Driver
Thats crap sc430uk. I spent a fortune on CCTV around my house after someone tried to break into next door after we recently moved there.
Would love to see the CCTV. Email it to me at chris at aquanuke.com (replace the at with an &) and i'll put it on my server.
BTW did you tell scarface at the LOC. Hes pretty hot at sorting these things out.
Would love to see the CCTV. Email it to me at chris at aquanuke.com (replace the at with an &) and i'll put it on my server.
BTW did you tell scarface at the LOC. Hes pretty hot at sorting these things out.
03-09-06, 11:04 AM
#57
All Lexus cars hardly stolen unlike an Honda Civic and an Camry! These cars most stolen in the America!
Good luck your IS250! An impossbile IS250 stolen within 8 minutes! Car thefts stole any kind luxury cars!
Good luck your IS250! An impossbile IS250 stolen within 8 minutes! Car thefts stole any kind luxury cars!
03-09-06, 11:24 AM
#58
Lexus Test Driver
Typically the most stolen cars are the least value ones as their the easiest. Mostly kids joyriding. Over here its Novas and Fiesta. Ford make some ropey cars like a key from any Ford Granada will open the door of any other Granada.
I had an old Granada and we knew this other guy who had one who was going away for a few days so one summers night we snuck round and opened his car door and put a pint of maggots in the back seat... couple weeks latter we saw him and he told us this story about coming home to find his car full with thousands of Bluebottles
Try this if you dont want your car to get chored.
I had an old Granada and we knew this other guy who had one who was going away for a few days so one summers night we snuck round and opened his car door and put a pint of maggots in the back seat... couple weeks latter we saw him and he told us this story about coming home to find his car full with thousands of Bluebottles
Try this if you dont want your car to get chored.
03-10-06, 08:46 AM
#60
Originally Posted by 2ndchance
Last post was a couple weeks ago. I think most of us are pretty sure this guy wasn't being entirely honest.