Benz readies 'V12 super diesel'
10-08-04, 04:00 PM
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Benz readies 'V12 super diesel'
Benz readies 'V12 super diesel'
Mercedes is secretly developing a new range-topping diesel engine to take on Volkswagen’s 5.0-litre V10, as used in the Touareg and Phaeton. The 6.0-litre V12 is based around the German car maker’s advanced new 3.0-litre V6 diesel. Autocar sources say the two engines share the same basic architecture, major components and bore-centre measurements, although full details won’t be made official until mid-2006 when it is planned to power selected new Mercedes models.
Already undergoing extensive durability testing, the new V12 common-rail diesel is said to use a combination of piezo injectors and twin turbochargers to produce 360bhp and a mighty 686lb ft of torque — figures that would make it the world’s most powerful passenger-car diesel engine by a considerable margin.
Among the models destined to receive Mercedes’ super diesel are the new G-, M-, R- and S-class. There’s also an outside chance it could appear underneath the bonnet of the Maybach luxury saloon.
Up until now Mercedes’ largest diesel engine has been a 4.0-litre V8 which delivers 256bhp and 413lb ft. It is planned to be replaced by a new 4.4-litre V8 with over 300bhp and 516lb ft by the end of 2005.
http://www.autocarmagazine.com/news_...p?na_id=211155
Mercedes is secretly developing a new range-topping diesel engine to take on Volkswagen’s 5.0-litre V10, as used in the Touareg and Phaeton. The 6.0-litre V12 is based around the German car maker’s advanced new 3.0-litre V6 diesel. Autocar sources say the two engines share the same basic architecture, major components and bore-centre measurements, although full details won’t be made official until mid-2006 when it is planned to power selected new Mercedes models.
Already undergoing extensive durability testing, the new V12 common-rail diesel is said to use a combination of piezo injectors and twin turbochargers to produce 360bhp and a mighty 686lb ft of torque — figures that would make it the world’s most powerful passenger-car diesel engine by a considerable margin.
Among the models destined to receive Mercedes’ super diesel are the new G-, M-, R- and S-class. There’s also an outside chance it could appear underneath the bonnet of the Maybach luxury saloon.
Up until now Mercedes’ largest diesel engine has been a 4.0-litre V8 which delivers 256bhp and 413lb ft. It is planned to be replaced by a new 4.4-litre V8 with over 300bhp and 516lb ft by the end of 2005.
http://www.autocarmagazine.com/news_...p?na_id=211155
10-08-04, 04:05 PM
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Oh noes!!!!!111111oneone111~~ 
Toyota, where are you????
Oh wow, you all know how much I love teh turbo diesels hardcore...Benz used to outright Pwn turbodiesels...Looks like they're ready to take the crown off the shelf and put it on...
Major props. I would kill for this engine. The next S-Klasse is gonna be a serious ************. Lexus better come prepared.
Toyota, where are you????
Oh wow, you all know how much I love teh turbo diesels hardcore...Benz used to outright Pwn turbodiesels...Looks like they're ready to take the crown off the shelf and put it on...
Major props. I would kill for this engine. The next S-Klasse is gonna be a serious ************. Lexus better come prepared.
10-08-04, 10:20 PM
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MB cant even afford to lose a diesel hp war. 
They are starting to get real predictable.
Why would anyone want a heavy cast-iron diesel, w200+lbs of turbo hardware in a luxury car is beyond me. I doubt it will even fit in the engine bay.
What bothers me is diesels are intended for commercial use. There is a reason why poor emissions, and turbo technology is acceptable.
I hope some of the larger states place bans on diesels (especially turbocharged) for non-commercial use.
They are starting to get real predictable.
Why would anyone want a heavy cast-iron diesel, w200+lbs of turbo hardware in a luxury car is beyond me. I doubt it will even fit in the engine bay.
What bothers me is diesels are intended for commercial use. There is a reason why poor emissions, and turbo technology is acceptable.
I hope some of the larger states place bans on diesels (especially turbocharged) for non-commercial use.
10-08-04, 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by LexusLuver
Why would anyone want a heavy cast-iron diesel, w200+lbs of turbo hardware in a luxury car is beyond me. I doubt it will even fit in the engine bay.
Why would anyone want a heavy cast-iron diesel, w200+lbs of turbo hardware in a luxury car is beyond me. I doubt it will even fit in the engine bay.
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The number that really matters on that comparison chart is the 60-100 passing time - compare that to any other car and you realize the advantages of a diesel (the numbers are even more impressive considering the 4000lb cars they are installed in).
Toward the other end of the scale you have the Honda 2.2 i-CTDi that has repectable HP/tq numbers and gets over 50mpg in the Euro Accord.
Hybrids will be a real tought sell in Europe.
Toward the other end of the scale you have the Honda 2.2 i-CTDi that has repectable HP/tq numbers and gets over 50mpg in the Euro Accord.
Hybrids will be a real tought sell in Europe.
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