Novel RCF Build thread - Molten Pearl w/ Perf. Pkg/TVD
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Congrats on the Build Scott..!!
Where will it be displayed at SEMA ??
Joe Z
Where will it be displayed at SEMA ??
Joe Z
Hey guys, here is an update with pics - Kit installed, exhaust installed. I'm sorry, but video will have to come later, I mean a month later. I'm very busy, I will be in Taiwan and Japan for rest of November after SEMA.
I will post videos/sound clips later on soon as I get back from my Asia trip. I will also get it dynod ASAP once I'm back! I know you guys are waiting for that, I just don't have time right now. I wonder if BP Auto has videos/sound clips, if so, please post up since I won't be able to for a while. If not, I'll eventually get to it once I'm back. Thanks again!!
Hope you guys like it!
I will post videos/sound clips later on soon as I get back from my Asia trip. I will also get it dynod ASAP once I'm back! I know you guys are waiting for that, I just don't have time right now. I wonder if BP Auto has videos/sound clips, if so, please post up since I won't be able to for a while. If not, I'll eventually get to it once I'm back. Thanks again!!
Hope you guys like it!
#32
I was told that 400+ cars were denied this year because I guess SEMA's set up is now different. I guess all cars have to be at a booth or something and not in the open space? I'm not quite sure about the exact details because I have never been to SEMA and this would have been my first. Less than 2 days until it starts, I have no clue if my car will be at anyone's booth. I feel bad for Novel because they were really excited that this car was "going" to SEMA. One of my friends that had his car at SEMA few times said that this has happened before and it's all politics. And Maybe I don't have enough stickers on my car. Haha
The worst part is, I made plans around SEMA thinking I will be going 100%. Like I said earlier, I'm headed out of the country for several weeks, and my gf wanted to meet some old friends in Taiwan during this week since they are only available during this time, but since I had to push the trip back 1 week because of SEMA, that won't be happening. And now, looks like SEMA might not even be happening for me, which means, I could have made it to Taiwan this coming week and could have linked up with my gf's friends in Taiwan. Now, I'm in the dog house. At the end of the day, I'm not butthurt if my car won't be displayed, it's all good!
Last edited by boostedGS; 11-02-15 at 02:17 AM.
#33
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Hey Scott, I have been talking to Taku a lot as well my car and yours are the only 2 RCF with the exhaust system over here in the United States. My car will be over at the Zito Wheels booth but I am sure they will figure something out for you. I am a little salty you got the diffuser before me though haha I wanted it to go with rocket bunny kit I have to wait for the second one now lol.
#34
Hey Scott, I have been talking to Taku a lot as well my car and yours are the only 2 RCF with the exhaust system over here in the United States. My car will be over at the Zito Wheels booth but I am sure they will figure something out for you. I am a little salty you got the diffuser before me though haha I wanted it to go with rocket bunny kit I have to wait for the second one now lol.
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Don't be discouraged Scott...!!!!
Agreed this year, spots outside of Vendor booths are being done differently and space is an issue...
ALSO, sometimes I wonder how some builds even make it into SEMA
SEMA is not for the public.. It is closed to the Public...
In reality it's a Convention for the Aftermarket Industry people Only..
If I were you, I would start locking in a spot for your car NOW, for the LA Auto Show..!!
Now that's a Great Place for the car to get some Love & Attention
~ Joe Z
Agreed this year, spots outside of Vendor booths are being done differently and space is an issue...
ALSO, sometimes I wonder how some builds even make it into SEMA
SEMA is not for the public.. It is closed to the Public...
In reality it's a Convention for the Aftermarket Industry people Only..
If I were you, I would start locking in a spot for your car NOW, for the LA Auto Show..!!
Now that's a Great Place for the car to get some Love & Attention
~ Joe Z
Sadly, as of now, I'm not sure. When this project took off several months ago, it seemed like I would definitely have a place at SEMA according to BP. As of yesterday, I was told that the chances are now 50/50 and I would have stand by in case they do have a space for me.
I was told that 400+ cars were denied this year because I guess SEMA's set up is now different. I guess all cars have to be at a booth or something and not in the open space? I'm not quite sure about the exact details because I have never been to SEMA and this would have been my first. Less than 2 days until it starts, I have no clue if my car will be at anyone's booth. I feel bad for Novel because they were really excited that this car was "going" to SEMA. One of my friends that had his car at SEMA few times said that this has happened before and it's all politics. And Maybe I don't have enough stickers on my car. Haha
The worst part is, I made plans around SEMA thinking I will be going 100%. Like I said earlier, I'm headed out of the country for several weeks, and my gf wanted to meet some old friends in Taiwan during this week since they are only available during this time, but since I had to push the trip back 1 week because of SEMA, that won't be happening. And now, looks like SEMA might not even be happening for me, which means, I could have made it to Taiwan this coming week and could have linked up with my gf's friends in Taiwan. Now, I'm in the dog house. At the end of the day, I'm not butthurt if my car won't be displayed, it's all good!
I was told that 400+ cars were denied this year because I guess SEMA's set up is now different. I guess all cars have to be at a booth or something and not in the open space? I'm not quite sure about the exact details because I have never been to SEMA and this would have been my first. Less than 2 days until it starts, I have no clue if my car will be at anyone's booth. I feel bad for Novel because they were really excited that this car was "going" to SEMA. One of my friends that had his car at SEMA few times said that this has happened before and it's all politics. And Maybe I don't have enough stickers on my car. Haha
The worst part is, I made plans around SEMA thinking I will be going 100%. Like I said earlier, I'm headed out of the country for several weeks, and my gf wanted to meet some old friends in Taiwan during this week since they are only available during this time, but since I had to push the trip back 1 week because of SEMA, that won't be happening. And now, looks like SEMA might not even be happening for me, which means, I could have made it to Taiwan this coming week and could have linked up with my gf's friends in Taiwan. Now, I'm in the dog house. At the end of the day, I'm not butthurt if my car won't be displayed, it's all good!
#37
Don't be discouraged Scott...!!!!
Agreed this year, spots outside of Vendor booths are being done differently and space is an issue...
ALSO, sometimes I wonder how some builds even make it into SEMA
SEMA is not for the public.. It is closed to the Public...
In reality it's a Convention for the Aftermarket Industry people Only..
If I were you, I would start locking in a spot for your car NOW, for the LA Auto Show..!!
Now that's a Great Place for the car to get some Love & Attention
~ Joe Z
Agreed this year, spots outside of Vendor booths are being done differently and space is an issue...
ALSO, sometimes I wonder how some builds even make it into SEMA
SEMA is not for the public.. It is closed to the Public...
In reality it's a Convention for the Aftermarket Industry people Only..
If I were you, I would start locking in a spot for your car NOW, for the LA Auto Show..!!
Now that's a Great Place for the car to get some Love & Attention
~ Joe Z
I actually thought about the LA car show, that would be nice, but I won't be able to make that either. During that time, I'll be in Japan.
Thanks Joe!
#39
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At the time we were talking to a couple of our partners to coordinate SEMA booth spots for this car so the livery was intended for SEMA use. The OP liked it but it's up to him if he wants to keep them or not. I personally really like the NOVEL logo because it is simple and clean. It looks good because it's not too crazy or aggressive. Technically this car is like the US NOVEL demo car too. The car has the full NOVEL carbon lip kit, including the new prototype rear diffuser system that hasn't been released yet, and the full header back NOVEL variable valve exhaust system. This car has pretty much the full catalog of NOVEL parts to help bring exposure to the brand in the US. The whole thing turned out really nicely. The OP had a pretty clear vision of what he wanted and was up for anything. In the end, I think everybody was happy with how it turned out.
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@BPauto: Ah... okay... Too bad he changed his plans after being waitlisted then accepted last minute. I guess after SEMA season, he can change it into a small vinyl wrap sticker under/next to Side Fender "F" so, it won't look like a company car unless Novel bought it... lol!
#42
UPDATE:
Dyno'd the car today, I'll post up the graphs once my friend emails them to me. It was dyno'ed on a Dynojet. Elevation was set to actual at 299 ft above sea level. This particular Dynojet I was on is an older model with larger drum, so numbers will read less than on a newer Dynojet with a smaller drum. Also, these were all 4th gear pulls.
EDIT: Car had ARCO 91 octane. Maybe it may pull better numbers with Shell, Chevron, 76, etc? I hear a lot of people saying ARCO gas is crap.
Pull 1 : ~ 370rwhp, ~330 tq
** couple minutes in between**
Pull 2 : ~ 350rwhp, ~310 tq -- getting heat soaked fast, numbers are dropping.
** we let the car cool down for 20 minutes**
Pull 3 : ~ 390rwhp, 347 tq.
Looks like the engine gets heat soaked very fast! We were running two fans to help cool down. The 390rwhp dyno can be seen on IG @kaizen_motorsports.
I think to make sure we are comparing apples to apples, oranges to oranges, if any one of you are comparing your numbers, make sure you dyno'd on a Dynojet as well. Also, here are several other questions regarding dyno factors I'm interested in knowing the answers to:
1) What was your elevation set at during dyno?
2) Was it an older or newer Dynojet? (Small vs. larger drum)
3) What gear did you pull on?
4) Did you dyno pull on a slightly colder/not so freshly driven engine?
^ I'm just wondering if my numbers would be a bit higher on my dyno if I didn't drive 35+ minutes to the shop, then dyno'd the 2 runs, and the 2nd being significantly less than the 1st. Just letting it cool down for 20 minutes after the 2 runs made a huge difference in numbers.
What if I were to let the engine cool down for couple hours and do a fresh pull? I'm sure it will be 400+ rwhp, but then, this won't be an accurate measure of the actual power level since you will be driving on the streets with engine that has been fully warned up. So I think the 390hp/347tq is a conservative and more accurate number while the car is being driven than a dyno run on a fresh start up/warm up.
Dyno'd the car today, I'll post up the graphs once my friend emails them to me. It was dyno'ed on a Dynojet. Elevation was set to actual at 299 ft above sea level. This particular Dynojet I was on is an older model with larger drum, so numbers will read less than on a newer Dynojet with a smaller drum. Also, these were all 4th gear pulls.
EDIT: Car had ARCO 91 octane. Maybe it may pull better numbers with Shell, Chevron, 76, etc? I hear a lot of people saying ARCO gas is crap.
Pull 1 : ~ 370rwhp, ~330 tq
** couple minutes in between**
Pull 2 : ~ 350rwhp, ~310 tq -- getting heat soaked fast, numbers are dropping.
** we let the car cool down for 20 minutes**
Pull 3 : ~ 390rwhp, 347 tq.
Looks like the engine gets heat soaked very fast! We were running two fans to help cool down. The 390rwhp dyno can be seen on IG @kaizen_motorsports.
I think to make sure we are comparing apples to apples, oranges to oranges, if any one of you are comparing your numbers, make sure you dyno'd on a Dynojet as well. Also, here are several other questions regarding dyno factors I'm interested in knowing the answers to:
1) What was your elevation set at during dyno?
2) Was it an older or newer Dynojet? (Small vs. larger drum)
3) What gear did you pull on?
4) Did you dyno pull on a slightly colder/not so freshly driven engine?
^ I'm just wondering if my numbers would be a bit higher on my dyno if I didn't drive 35+ minutes to the shop, then dyno'd the 2 runs, and the 2nd being significantly less than the 1st. Just letting it cool down for 20 minutes after the 2 runs made a huge difference in numbers.
What if I were to let the engine cool down for couple hours and do a fresh pull? I'm sure it will be 400+ rwhp, but then, this won't be an accurate measure of the actual power level since you will be driving on the streets with engine that has been fully warned up. So I think the 390hp/347tq is a conservative and more accurate number while the car is being driven than a dyno run on a fresh start up/warm up.
Last edited by boostedGS; 11-06-15 at 09:12 PM.
#43
Interesting..
I drove 20mins to the dyno shopped, strapped my car on the dynojet and first run got 408whp then 410whp then 414whp and 375whp all in the space of minutes. The car was making more power and torque by each run. Temps were hot and humid too. I also believe the runs were made in 4th gear.
Only mod: GTHAUS catback exhaust.
My advice is to drive the car more. Let your ECU figure out your exhaust system and then dyno again after 2 weeks. I'm 100% sure you will be making more power. Your torque numbers look low too.
I drove 20mins to the dyno shopped, strapped my car on the dynojet and first run got 408whp then 410whp then 414whp and 375whp all in the space of minutes. The car was making more power and torque by each run. Temps were hot and humid too. I also believe the runs were made in 4th gear.
Only mod: GTHAUS catback exhaust.
My advice is to drive the car more. Let your ECU figure out your exhaust system and then dyno again after 2 weeks. I'm 100% sure you will be making more power. Your torque numbers look low too.
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Interesting..
I drove 20mins to the dyno shopped, strapped my car on the dynojet and first run got 408whp then 410whp then 414whp and 375whp all in the space of minutes. The car was making more power and torque by each run. Temps were hot and humid too. I also believe the runs were made in 4th gear.
Only mod: GTHAUS catback exhaust.
My advice is to drive the car more. Let your ECU figure out your exhaust system and then dyno again after 2 weeks. I'm 100% sure you will be making more power. Your torque numbers look low too.
I drove 20mins to the dyno shopped, strapped my car on the dynojet and first run got 408whp then 410whp then 414whp and 375whp all in the space of minutes. The car was making more power and torque by each run. Temps were hot and humid too. I also believe the runs were made in 4th gear.
Only mod: GTHAUS catback exhaust.
My advice is to drive the car more. Let your ECU figure out your exhaust system and then dyno again after 2 weeks. I'm 100% sure you will be making more power. Your torque numbers look low too.
#45
Interesting..
I drove 20mins to the dyno shopped, strapped my car on the dynojet and first run got 408whp then 410whp then 414whp and 375whp all in the space of minutes. The car was making more power and torque by each run. Temps were hot and humid too. I also believe the runs were made in 4th gear.
Only mod: GTHAUS catback exhaust.
My advice is to drive the car more. Let your ECU figure out your exhaust system and then dyno again after 2 weeks. I'm 100% sure you will be making more power. Your torque numbers look low too.
I drove 20mins to the dyno shopped, strapped my car on the dynojet and first run got 408whp then 410whp then 414whp and 375whp all in the space of minutes. The car was making more power and torque by each run. Temps were hot and humid too. I also believe the runs were made in 4th gear.
Only mod: GTHAUS catback exhaust.
My advice is to drive the car more. Let your ECU figure out your exhaust system and then dyno again after 2 weeks. I'm 100% sure you will be making more power. Your torque numbers look low too.
You guys dyno'd on a Dynojet, right? Can you ask your tuner if this is an older model or newer? (Larger drum vs. smaller)
Also, what was the elevation set at on the Dynojet while doing the pulls? Mine was set at 299 ft above sea level. A lot of shops do not adjust accordingly.
I'm just trying to figure out why my numbers are really off and I'm trying to figure out the other variables ^ that will affect HP/TQ numbers.
Thanks!