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Old 11-12-15, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by zmcgovern4
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I am no longer an authorized installer for Optimum as I left when they made their last drastic price increase (and more importantly other changes), but it wouldn't completely surprise me since their last couple of mandatory price increases more than doubled the minimum allowable price for installers to charge.

I'll see what I can find out.

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Thanks Zach. The message came from Chicago Auto Pros in the Chicago area.
Old 11-12-15, 10:42 AM
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Confirmed... MAP is going up for Opti-Coat Pro and Pro +
Old 11-12-15, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by zmcgovern4
Confirmed... MAP is going up for Opti-Coat Pro and Pro +
Thanks. With pricing like that, Opti Coat might become a tough sell.
Old 11-12-15, 11:30 AM
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Thanks. With pricing like that, Opti Coat might become a tough sell.
Well, they better be doing a complete correction with prices starting that high... as well as coating wheels. Otherwise, you're right.
Old 11-12-15, 11:34 AM
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Sorry... I was wrong... MAP is $695 for OCP and $1195 for OCP+ which also includes a free first wash after your coating service from what I am being told.

Also, starting December there will be a 7 year warranty
Old 11-12-15, 07:56 PM
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Zach, can I use some of my leftover 22ple VX3 on my polished wheels?
Old 11-13-15, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Nospinzone
Zach, can I use some of my leftover 22ple VX3 on my polished wheels?
I honestly haven't ever tried it on polished (bare) metal. If the wheels are clear coated, then it should be just fine... but I'm not sure if it would have any reaction to bare metal?

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Old 11-13-15, 02:10 PM
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Thanks! I checked some product info at Detailers Image and they (22ple) have a product dedicated to the wheels and it seems to apply a much harder surface.
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Originally Posted by Nospinzone
Thanks! I checked some product info at Detailers Image and they (22ple) have a product dedicated to the wheels and it seems to apply a much harder surface.
Right, 22ple VM1 is designed for metal surfaces and works very well.
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didnt read most of the post but I would opt for opti-coat pun intended.

Reason being is that opti-coat is the strongest coating available on the market. SiC(opti) vs SiO2(others). That is the chemical makeup and that C in opti coat is what makes it so strong and durable and no other company has been able to replicate it.

Most folks won't be able to tell the difference in gloss and the coating will last a lot longer. Its less hassle for the customer in the long run.

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Originally Posted by theory816
didnt read most of the post but I would opt for opti-coat pun intended.

Reason being is that opti-coat is the strongest coating available on the market. SiC(opti) vs SiO2(others). That is the chemical makeup and that C in opti coat is what makes it so strong and durable and no other company has been able to replicate it.

Most folks won't be able to tell the difference in gloss and the coating will last a lot longer. Its less hassle for the customer in the long run.
Unfortunately there is no real evidence to back this up.... I've personally done extensive testing over years with various coatings and in the end, they all perform as expected when maintained properly.

There are accounts of coatings "failing" all over the internet... opti-coat, cquartz, whatever... it is all very subjective and with the infinite amount of variables, there is just too much to account for so stating one product is certainly better than any other is just a gamble.

What Coating Should I Buy? by Zach McGovern

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Originally Posted by zmcgovern4
Unfortunately there is no real evidence to back this up.... I've personally done extensive testing over years with various coatings and in the end, they all perform as expected when maintained properly.

There are accounts of coatings "failing" all over the internet... opti-coat, cquartz, whatever... it is all very subjective and with the infinite amount of variables, there is just too much to account for so stating one product is certainly better than any other is just a gamble.

What Coating Should I Buy? by Zach McGovern

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-Zach
Im going to have to agree with ya on this and it really does come down to how well clients take care of their treated car. However, my standings on which coating stronger is Opti-coat BASED on the material makeup. As for glossiness, other coatings will beat opti-coat by a mile because it doesn't contain Carbon. But as youve mentioned, it doesnt matter how strong the coating is as it depends on what the client do to the car.
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Zach:
What happens if wax is applied to a car after 22ple VX2pro is applied. I recently took the car into the dealer after doing the coating and they have waxed the car. It looks like a machine was used and I was wondering if I would have to reapply the 22ple.. thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by rl9010
Zach:
What happens if wax is applied to a car after 22ple VX2pro is applied. I recently took the car into the dealer after doing the coating and they have waxed the car. It looks like a machine was used and I was wondering if I would have to reapply the 22ple.. thanks in advance!
Assuming the coating is fully cured, wax will have no ill effect on the coating as a wax is non-abrasive.

If they used any sort of polish or abrasive pad, then there is always a risk of removing or degrading the coating.... but as I mentioned above, there is no way to tell when a coating has actually been removed.

If you're feeling unsure, just reapply.

-Zach
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