Obama has no experience you say.....

baddis es · 02-21-07, 01:37 PM

well for those of you who have a hard time going with a candidate who has barely any experience, this ones for you.

Obama we know may not have had many years in capitol hill, but he is an interesting person, has been in legislature for 8 yrs, a senator for 4 yrs by election time, plus he is his own person and built his success with his own merit. Definitely something our current Pres cannot say.

Now while on topic of GWB. Why has no one ever questioned his lack of experience when running for office???

he was govenor of texas for 6yrs (a positon which is constitutionally written to be a weak power in the state of Texas), and really never accomplished anything before that. He was a failure in most things related to his life, including govenor of Texas, and as we see now, the Pres of USA.

just something to think about.....

DASHOCKER · 02-21-07, 01:58 PM

Obama is too "green" for some including Limbaugh.. Whatever that means... A new color code for black I guess

Anyway, Bush is doing a great job... He should be president forever.

NOT2008 needs to get here fast

Obama would "change the course" for the better, and allow this country to be respected around the world once again.

dreyfus · 02-21-07, 03:52 PM

In just about every single presidential election you hear the complaint against several of the candidates that they have little foreign policy experience. Well, duh!

Almost all American politicians have little to no foreign policy experience. Governors and state legislators have little opportunity in this arena, and even in Washington those politicians generally never get nearer to foreign policy experience than being on some committee somewhere.

Obama is no worse off here than Bush 2, or Clinton, or Regan before him (Bush 1 at least had the CIA under his belt).

DaveGS4 · 02-21-07, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER

Obama is too "green" for some including Limbaugh.. Whatever that means... A new color code for black I guess

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DASHOCKER,

Green is used as slang for "inexperienced",

I'm certain that you fully understand what calling someone 'green' means and although I don't listen to Limbaugh, I feel fairly certain that it was not meant in the racially derogatory manner implied and think you are inciting arguments with your comment. Not good.

mmarshall · 02-21-07, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER

Obama is too "green" for some including Limbaugh..

As pointed out, "Green" used to be a slang term for a rookie or someone who is inexperienced; but today it is also used to describe a person who is environmentally conscious.

mmarshall · 02-21-07, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER

Anyway, Bush is doing a great job... He should be president forever.

No......give Jeb a chance. Like father, like son(s).

DASHOCKER · 02-21-07, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveGS4

DASHOCKER,

Green is used as slang for "inexperienced",

I'm certain that you fully understand what calling someone 'green' means and although I don't listen to Limbaugh, I feel fairly certain that it was not meant in the racially derogatory manner implied and think you are inciting arguments with your comment. Not good.

I am not trying incite a thing. This is indeed the first time I heard this term. But hey, That is how you view it, & since I've been put on the spot so to speak,I will bow gracefully from this thread and so called racial threads. Not questioning anyones authority on this forum, but I find it revolting that I have been labeled "leader of the black people" which I find derragatory, and those who made those outlandish statements were not put on the spot as I've been. No problem at all

1SICKLEX · 02-21-07, 06:43 PM

Dude, "green" is used in business too. Its not how Dave "views" it, it is a universal slang for rookie/inexperieced and its perfectly fine if you were unaware of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green

Colloquial expressions

An inexperienced person is sometimes known as green, probably by analogy to unripe (i.e. unready, immature) fruit. The word greenhorn also refers to an inexperienced person.

NAZTY97 · 02-21-07, 06:59 PM

I like when "green" refers to money, personally....

but to the topic... Obama will be here tomorrow in Houston... so might go check him out.

DaveGS4 · 02-21-07, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER

I am not trying incite a thing. This is indeed the first time I heard this term. But hey, That is how you view it, & since I've been put on the spot so to speak,I will bow gracefully from this thread and so called racial threads. Not questioning anyones authority on this forum, but I find it revolting that I have been labeled "leader of the black people" which I find derragatory, and those who made those outlandish statements were not put on the spot as I've been. No problem at all

Those are exactly the same types of comments I wish to head off by asking you not to invite them with inflammatory statements such as the above. If you truly did not know this very widespread terminology, in the future please at least look it up before making egregious assumptions.

And let's not deflect the issue at hand please... You have no idea who has been warned in private regarding unnecessary comments towards you; there have been several.

As I have posted in prior threads, the race-focused threads in this debate forum have become particularly ugly to the point they were closed for a period of time. Fine if you want to have a race-related topic for now, but please do not turn the topic of every thread into one. Obama is a fine candidate for President, how about discussing his qualifications instead of his skin color. THAT is the topic of this thread.

O. L. T. · 02-21-07, 07:20 PM

Obama is definitely a greenhorn, but i think the dude will do well as LONG AS they do not force him into office like they have been doing. He once said he was not even considering running for office, now he's being shoved in head first.

If they let him come along as he should, he'll be a fine candidate in 4 to 8 yrs. If they shove him in right now, he'll crash and burn. The repercussions would be the same as if Hillary were in that spot instead of Obama and they said "well, that's it for trying a woman president, that didn't work out". The backlash of failure would set all progress that has been made towards equality of all men and women in the race for president back 100 years.

So, within his qualifications and experience only on the back end of failure do I believe anything having to do with race would come into play. NOT before.

DASHOCKER · 02-22-07, 06:58 AM

The gang is all here

Good to see my buddies participating in this thread. Anyways, I will let others interject....

mmarshall · 02-22-07, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DASHOCKER

The gang is all here

Good to see my buddies participating in this thread. Anyways, I will let others interject....

Have you personally endorsed Obama's candidacy? I'm not asking if you have sent his campaign any money or actively work for it as a volunteer, which, of course, is none of my or CL's buisness, but just if he is the candidate you are publically supporting.
If not, I can understand why..it is still very early in the selection and nomination process, and his suitability and fitness for the office is, of course, still under debate....both in and out of CL. Still.....you seem enthralled with his candidacy.

EmeraldLexuSC3 · 02-22-07, 10:38 PM

His political history in Illinois shows that Obama has proven himself to be a nearly perfect leftist demogod. He supports homosexual marriage, racial preferences, gun control, flag-burning, socialized medicine and the absolute right to abortion, including partial-birth abortions. He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive.

He is anti-war, voted against the reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act, against privatizing Social Security and opposes the death penalty, three strikes laws and school vouchers. He has no military service record.

He believes in the separation of church and state, except when he campaigns in black churches -and this is even a subject of debate!

He loves Jimmy Carter and is the 18th most liberal member of the Senate, receiving a 100% rating from Americans for Democratic Action, NARAL Pro -Choice America, National Organization for Women, the NAACP and the National Education Association.

This is one candidate that I will not support nor vote to elect, and I don’t believe America will ever elect an uber-liberal, apostate Muslim and self-admitted drug user to the Office of the President of the United States, but then again I could be wrong.

mmarshall · 02-23-07, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by EmeraldLexuSC3

His political history in Illinois shows that Obama has proven himself to be a nearly perfect leftist demogod. He supports homosexual marriage, racial preferences, gun control, flag-burning, socialized medicine and the absolute right to abortion, including partial-birth abortions. He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive.

He is anti-war, voted against the reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act, against privatizing Social Security and opposes the death penalty, three strikes laws and school vouchers. He has no military service record.

He believes in the separation of church and state, except when he campaigns in black churches -and this is even a subject of debate!

He loves Jimmy Carter and is the 18th most liberal member of the Senate, receiving a 100% rating from Americans for Democratic Action, NARAL Pro -Choice America, National Organization for Women, the NAACP and the National Education Association.

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This shows the huge influence that Chicago has on the voting results in IL. Outside of downtown Chicago and a few of its close-in suburbs, you could stick a fork into a candidate like this....he or she would get scant support at best. But like in my own D.C. area and the close-in suburbs, the large, liberal Democrat population cancels out and even exceeds the more conservative votes farther out.