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Old 10-25-05, 11:15 PM   #1
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Default CIA leak investigation, what's your guesses on indictments?

My guess is this Scooter Libby gets indicted obstruction of justice and that's it. Rove may get indicted too and will resign I guess, but my bet is he wouldn't be convicted (he's too smart).

This has many Democrats licking their chops as a chance to get back at Republicans for impeaching Clinton.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - With charges expected as early as Wednesday, authorities investigating who leaked covert CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity conducted last-minute interviews with her neighbors and associates of Karl Rove and other top White House aides, lawyers said on Tuesday.

Marc Lefkowitz, who lives across the street from Plame, told Reuters two
FBI agents asked him on Monday if he knew about Plame's CIA work before her identity was leaked to the press in 2003. Lefkowitz said he told them: "I didn't know."

Two lawyers involved in the case said such questioning could indicated that prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald intended to charge administration officials for the leak itself, in addition to possible charges for easier-to-prove crimes like perjury and obstruction of justice.

Prosecutors also questioned one of Rove's former White House colleagues about Rove's contacts with reporters before the leak. A lawyer with knowledge of the interviews said Fitzgerald was trying to close any holes in his case.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan would neither confirm nor deny a New York Times report that Vice President
**** Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis Libby, learned about Plame in a conversation with Cheney on June 12, 2003, weeks before her identity appeared in a newspaper column on July 14, 2003.

Lawyers involved in the case said Fitzgerald appeared close to bringing indictments against top administration officials, with an announcement expected as early as Wednesday, when the grand jury is scheduled to reconvene. The grand jury will expire on Friday unless Fitzgerald extends it.

Fitzgerald's investigation has centered on Libby and Rove,
President George W. Bush's top political adviser. Other aides may also be charged, the lawyers said.

White House officials were anxiously awaiting the outcome since any indicted officials are expected to resign immediately. If there are indictments, Bush is likely to make a public statement to try to reassure Americans he is committed to honesty and integrity in government.

Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record), a New York Democrat, urged Bush and his allies to refrain from attacking Fitzgerald. Some Republicans have suggested he was an overzealous prosecutor and would base his charges on legal technicalities.

IRAQ, NIGER, URANIUM?

Plame's identity was leaked after her diplomat husband, Joseph Wilson, accused the administration of twisting prewar intelligence on
Iraq. Wilson based the criticism in part on a CIA-sponsored mission he made to Africa in 2002 over an intelligence report that Iraq had sought uranium from Niger.

The New York Times report about the previously undisclosed conversation on June 12, 2003, put a spotlight on Cheney and raised questions about assertions he made in a September 2003 television interview that he did not know Wilson or who sent him to Niger.

Administration officials had sought to cast Wilson's trip as a boondoggle arranged by his wife, and in talking about her role, they revealed her identity, people close to the case said. Wilson said the CIA sent him on the mission after Cheney's office sought information about the Niger report.

Asked if Cheney always tells the truth to the American people, McClellan said: "Yes." He dismissed as "ridiculous" a question about whether Bush stood by Cheney's account of his role in the matter. "The vice president, like the president, is a straightforward, plain-spoken person," McClellan said.

The Times account of the June 2003 conversation also appeared to contradict Libby's federal grand jury testimony that he learned about Wilson's wife from reporters. Lawyers in the case say Fitzgerald is considering charging Libby for making false statements and possibly obstruction of justice.

Libby's notes indicate Cheney got his information about Plame from then-CIA director George Tenet, according to the Times. The notes did not show Cheney knew the name of Wilson's wife, but they showed Cheney told Libby she was employed by the CIA and may have helped arrange Wilson's Niger trip.

A Republican source with ties to Cheney said there was nothing illegal about Cheney and Libby discussing Wilson and his wife since they have security clearances.

Lefkowitz said Monday was the first time he had been questioned by the FBI in connection with his neighbor. The agents told him they were talking to other neighbors as well.
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Old 10-26-05, 05:45 PM   #2
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I bet...
1) Scooter is indicted
2) Rove is indicted
3) The is rumored to be a Mr.X outside of the whitehouse who will be indicted
4) Cheney will step down due to his involvments

#4 is a long shot but there sure has been a lot of chatter about this.

And by the way, Tenet has now gone on the record denying ever divulging Ms. Plames last name to Cheney... Someones lying. ( Probably all of them )
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Old 10-26-05, 09:40 PM   #3
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I bet...
1) Scooter is indicted
2) Rove is indicted
3) The is rumored to be a Mr.X outside of the whitehouse who will be indicted
4) Cheney will step down due to his involvments

#4 is a long shot but there sure has been a lot of chatter about this.

And by the way, Tenet has now gone on the record denying ever divulging Ms. Plames last name to Cheney... Someones lying. ( Probably all of them )
I'd say #4 is a very long shot. The only way I could see that working is if Bush already has someone in mind for a new VP - can you say Condoleeza?
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My guess is this Scooter Libby gets indicted obstruction of justice and that's it.
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Old 10-28-05, 03:07 PM   #5
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The investigation isn't necesarily over

Washinton Post reports that Rove is not out of legal hot water yet, and that the grand jury could possibly be extended, or that a new grand jury could continue an investigation of Karl Rove.
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I read an interesting article today claiming that the announcement was acutally the best news for the Democrats contrary to many talking points. The very fact that Rove is going to remain under investigation is going to keep the white house stressed and worried. Watching how this whole ordeal unfolds shall be very interesting.
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yeah theyll all get indicted but no one will go to jail and when bush leaves office he will pardon everyone on the low
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