Is the antenna for XM satellite radio built in like it is on the Acura TL and RL? I seem to recall from last year that there was a rather unattractive XMSR box antenna for the LS430 stuck to one side of the rear deck lid. I'm hoping this is not the case for the GS300 and GS430. Anybody know?

Got the answer from the local Lexus dealer. The XM satellite antenna is NOT built into the car. There is a small, black metal box antenna which apparently gets attached by the dealer to the outside of the trunk lid on one side. Lexus claims this provides better reception than a built in antenna. But even the salesperson said it looked "tacky". Same situation for the LS430, apparently.

Does anyone have a picture of this antenna that they can post?

I saw on the LS430 section that some ls430 xm owners had the antenna installed inside the rear brake lamp location inside the back window.

Would this be possible in the new GS?

I defintely would like to avoid the box being located on top of my trunk lid, if possible.

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139917&page=1&pp=15&highlight=satellite+antenna

I found the link to the discussion in the LS430 forum where at least 2 Lexus dealers have installed the XM satellite antenna inside the rear center brake light housing of the LS430 with no problems and excellent reception.

Will the new GS have a similar center brake lamp?

Hope this helps others as well.

is one of the Lexus dealers that did the successful XM antenna install inside the center rear brake lamp.

Since I prefer XM (more established, cheaper, more cities covered by the traffic channels etc) but did not want that ugly antenna box on my new beautiful GS this is great news.

Liz, this is the install I want on my new GS :) Please make sure your lead tech will still do this!

satelite radio doesn't come w/ the ML/NAV package?! i people in the LS forums paid 850 bucks for satelite! is it more or is taht expensive?

xm might be more established, but no howard stern.

is one of the Lexus dealers that did the successful XM antenna install inside the center rear brake lamp.

Since I prefer XM (more established, cheaper, more cities covered by the traffic channels etc) but did not want that ugly antenna box on my new beautiful GS this is great news.

Liz, this is the install I want on my new GS :) Please make sure your lead tech will still do this!

"xm might be more established, but no howard stern."

Oh yeah, I forgot. Yet another reason I prefer XM :)

Just kidding. To each their own. I don't listen to talk radio.

None of the Lexus models come std. with satellite radio. An XM tuner is installed in the trunk area in the Sedan models which are the LS, ES and now the GS. It does not require Nav or Mark Levinson. I like the idea of installing the antenna inside the rear glass but we still put ours on the center of the trunk lid edge near the rear center brakelight. We don't put them on the side anymore but that was the original install instructions with template on the LS430's.

Sirius tuners and eventually Howard Stern will become available in the Spring. I can't wait to listen to XM on the new Mark Lev 14 speaker 7.1 surround sound system. Probably the best factory system ever...

Before we decided on the new GS we looked at several other cars (as I mentioned) including the Audi A6. The Audi A6 has the shark fin style antenna on the roof--I assume for navigation? Anyway, the Audi salesperson said that theirs was a "multi-purpose" antenna and could also be used as the XM satellite antenna. I didn't know that was possible. I thought all vehicles needed a supplemental dedicated satellite antenna.

If I was ordering black or a dark color I wouldn't mind the black trunk mounted quite as much. But since I want the Glacier or Crystal White I was looking for interior options that wouldn't defeat its purpose. Best I have heard so far is the install inside the rear center brake light.

I am sure this technology in autos is so new that we'll have totally invisible antennas in the future.

I just found an updated article at www.cnet.com comparing the 2 services. It appears Cnet believes the sound quality is better on XM:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6466_7-5068442-2.html?tag=nav

You can mount the antenna inside the glass behind the brake light on the LS430 and ES330 models as some dealers in California are doing. It doesn't seem to affect the reception. On the GS models there is a small ambient light sensor in that spot so the center location is taken already. Our reps car had the conventional center of the back edge of the trunk lid mount and there is a little wire ( looks like black spkr wire) that peeks out from the edge of the trunk lid. His car is Black. If you are getting White I would wait until they can install inside the rear window so it is not as distracting. It may not be centered but that is the lesser of the two evils.

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You can mount the antenna inside the glass behind the brake light on the LS430 and ES330 models as some dealers in California are doing. It doesn't seem to affect the reception. On the GS models there is a small ambient light sensor in that spot so the center location is taken already. Our reps car had the conventional center of the back edge of the trunk lid mount and there is a little wire ( looks like black spkr wire) that peeks out from the edge of the trunk lid. His car is Black. If you are getting White I would wait until they can install inside the rear window so it is not as distracting. It may not be centered but that is the lesser of the two evils.

Rock: Got mine installed inside window--under rear window shelf. No wires and completely out of sight. Works great.

Rockville,

Can you look into this; I sent you details via private message.

We installed the antenna under the package tray on 4 of the 06 GS already. Zero problem with reception. We have to remove the backseat and lift up the package tray( just enough room to get the hand inside and mount the antenna). Then feed the antenna wire from the inside of the package tray through the trunk. A lot of labor invlove( around 3.5 hrs labor), but the customer's happy.

But we're in the east coast and from what I understand the reception from the sattelite is better than the west coast due to the sattlelite's location.

We installed the antenna under the package tray on 4 of the 06 GS already. Zero problem with reception. We have to remove the backseat and lift up the package tray( just enough room to get the hand inside and mount the antenna). Then feed the antenna wire from the inside of the package tray through the trunk. A lot of labor invlove( around 3.5 hrs labor), but the customer's happy.

But we're in the east coast and from what I understand the reception from the sattelite is better than the west coast due to the sattlelite's location.

I have the exact same install. I am as about as far west as you can go --CA-- and reception is great.

We installed the antenna under the package tray on 4 of the 06 GS already. Zero problem with reception. We have to remove the backseat and lift up the package tray( just enough room to get the hand inside and mount the antenna). Then feed the antenna wire from the inside of the package tray through the trunk. A lot of labor invlove( around 3.5 hrs labor), but the customer's happy.

But we're in the east coast and from what I understand the reception from the sattelite is better than the west coast due to the sattlelite's location.

Hmmmm... What about NYC? Anyone try that? Thats about where I am so I am concerned about all the trees around here and the huge buildings in NYC.

Thanks!

Hmmmm... What about NYC? Anyone try that? Thats about where I am so I am concerned about all the trees around here and the huge buildings in NYC.

Thanks!
I drove my 01 GS in NYC couple of years ago and my factory Nav can't pick up the GPS signal every once a while in NYC. I don't know about the XM's signal, but the tall buildings and trees can effect your GPS and XM signal.

Even with my 01 GS equipted with XM from viastech and the antenna mounted on the trunk. When I went up in the mountain the XM signal kinda on and off.

I have the exact same install. I am as about as far west as you can go --CA-- and reception is great.
That's good to know, because somebody told me that with this set up it may not work in the west... :thumbup:

Anyone have a picture of the satellite antenna mounted on the trunk lid? This appears to be the standard Lexus default installation.

I was thinking about adding satellite radio to my new GS300, but not if the dealer will only install the antenna on the trunk lid.

Thanks.

Anyone have a picture of the satellite antenna mounted on the trunk lid? This appears to be the standard Lexus default installation.

I was thinking about adding satellite radio to my new GS300, but not if the dealer will only install the antenna on the trunk lid.

Thanks.

If you do a search of the forum for earlier posts you will find that several of us have satellite radio antennaes installed in our new GS's UNDER the rear window shelf completely out of view. They were installed by Lexus dealers and work great. I would NOT settle for on trunk installation. I had to talk to the service dept but they agreed and have done several more since. My dealer was Mission Viejo (CA) Lexus but other Lexus dealers in other parts of the country have done the same install.

Thanks azmike. I had read the other posts but I guess I didn't realize several people had the antenna installed in this manner by Lexus dealerships. My dealer only mentioned the trunk lid as the location, but I'll pursue again. Thanks for telling me the name of your dealer where this work was performed.

We installed the antenna under the package tray on 4 of the 06 GS already. Zero problem with reception. We have to remove the backseat and lift up the package tray( just enough room to get the hand inside and mount the antenna). Then feed the antenna wire from the inside of the package tray through the trunk. A lot of labor invlove( around 3.5 hrs labor), but the customer's happy.

But we're in the east coast and from what I understand the reception from the sattelite is better than the west coast due to the sattlelite's location.


XM has 2 stationary satellites that sit on the equator and they use 1000's of ground repeaters.

SIRIUS has 3 roaming satellites that rotate in a figure 8 formation from the top of Canada to South America only using a lil over 100 repeaters.

The angle of the back window on the GS is adequate for both services to pick up the signal. I used to have mine mounted like that in my 00 and had no problems.

Is the antenna for XM satellite radio built in like it is on the Acura TL and RL? I seem to recall from last year that there was a rather unattractive XMSR box antenna for the LS430 stuck to one side of the rear deck lid. I'm hoping this is not the case for the GS300 and GS430. Anybody know?

I dont know if the new RL and TL have them built in but I know that every RL and TL I've seen has the XM antenna mounted on the roof of the car. So unless it changed for this year model the antenna is not built into the car.

SIRIUS is working on a windshield mounted antenna that mounts up by your rearview mirror. O.E.M.s will love this when it is launched.

Is the antenna for XM satellite radio built in like it is on the Acura TL and RL? I seem to recall from last year that there was a rather unattractive XMSR box antenna for the LS430 stuck to one side of the rear deck lid. I'm hoping this is not the case for the GS300 and GS430. Anybody know?


SIRIUS Introduces Interior Glass Mounted Satellite Radio Antenna for Vehicles

Design Offers Aesthetic Advantage Over Exterior Mounted Satellite Radio Antennas

NEW YORK, Oct 26, 2004 -- SIRIUS, the premium satellite radio provider known for delivering the very best in commercial-free music and sports programming to cars and homes across the country, today announced the introduction of the world's first interior glass mounted satellite radio antenna.

The SIRIUS Interior Glass Mounted Antenna, or SIGMA, was developed by SIRIUS and its antenna partner RecepTec, to provide a distinct aesthetic advantage over exterior mounted satellite radio antennas currently in use. SIGMA is mounted in the shaded sun band of a vehicle's front windshield, has no exposed wiring and is unobtrusive. In addition to its aesthetic advantage, SIGMA will:

* Reduce costs due to the elimination of antenna pre-wiring and
associated factory installation costs

* Allow faster and more efficient factory and dealer installations

* Reduce warranty costs -- windshield protection eliminates problems
common to exterior mounted antennas such as water leakage, wind noise
or detachment due to harsh long term environmental conditions and car
wash damage

The SIGMA uses current OEM validated technology that has already been approved by SIRIUS' car manufacturing partners. SIGMA is made possible by the unique highly inclined elliptical orbits of SIRIUS' three satellites, resulting in superior line of sight reception to vehicles.

"This is the next step in the evolution of satellite radio antennas," said Doug Wilsterman, Senior Vice President of Automotive OEM for SIRIUS. "We believe that the unique design and ease of installation will make the SIGMA very popular with consumers."

SIGMA offers auto manufacturers the flexibility to completely integrate satellite radio inside a vehicle's passenger cabin without disrupting the harmony of a vehicle's interior or exterior styling.

is one of the Lexus dealers that did the successful XM antenna install inside the center rear brake lamp.

Since I prefer XM (more established, cheaper, more cities covered by the traffic channels etc) but did not want that ugly antenna box on my new beautiful GS this is great news.

Liz, this is the install I want on my new GS :) Please make sure your lead tech will still do this!

What is your basis on XM being more established?

And XM is not cheaper unless you signed up before April and paid for a year in advance XM is now 12.95 a month just like SIRIUS is.

If XM is more established why are they changing there business model to match SIRIUS. SIRIUS has always been 12.95 a month commercial free with no extra pay channels and no extra fees for online streaming.

XM was 9.95 a month, 1.95 a month for Playboy, 1.95 for Opie & Anthony, Not commercial free, 3.99 for online streaming.

XM has the name and they have GM and Honda shoving XM down peoples throats thats it. I do give XM the lead on there portable units but thats about it.

is SIRIUS really coming out for the new GS? Rock mentioned later in the spring, not sure if this still holds true . . .

is SIRIUS really coming out for the new GS? Rock mentioned later in the spring, not sure if this still holds true . . .


I went to Longo Lexus a month ago and spoke with a sales guy and said it will be up to the customer weather they want SIRIUS or XM. Although at the current time I think XM is the only hardware that they have.

If you want SIRIUS I would hold out for it. I wouldnt waist a dime on XM (already have anybody looking for a Pioneer XM Tuner that receives the service for free???), but each person has there preference.

Announcement on 5/16/2005 from XM:

XM Satellite Radio (XMSR:Nasdaq - commentary - research) rose 0.2% after the company said it surpassed the 4 million-subscriber mark. XM Satellite said it added its most recent 1 million subscribers in less than five months. It took the company 23 months to reach its first 1 million subscribers, eight months to reach the 2 million mark and six months to reach 3 million. The company reiterated its year-end goal of 5.5 million subscribers. Shares traded up 6 cents to $28.32.

courtesy of TheStreet.com

I purchased my GS300 in March and had the dealer mount the antenna on the back dash 6 inches from the rear brake light. I found pictures on this forum and emailed them to him. I insisted that they install it on the dash. The reception is superb here in Boston and you really don't notice the "little black box" at all. There is no way anyone should allow it to be mounted on the trunk. It takes a little more time for the dealer but it's worth it. After doing mine this way they will be doing all others the same way....

Thank you forum!!!!!

Raz

I purchased my GS300 in March and had the dealer mount the antenna on the back dash 6 inches from the rear brake light. I found pictures on this forum and emailed them to him. I insisted that they install it on the dash. The reception is superb here in Boston and you really don't notice the "little black box" at all. There is no way anyone should allow it to be mounted on the trunk. It takes a little more time for the dealer but it's worth it. After doing mine this way they will be doing all others the same way....

Thank you forum!!!!!

Razjust to clarify, you installed Sirius, right? would you mind PM'ing with some details (cost, time, etc.)? or you can share on the forum if you are ok with it. thanks! :)

I installed XM.....

The dealer cost was $795...I paid $500...It took 3 days to get the system and had it installed in less than 3 hours...by my estimate of various calls back and forth from the dealer. (Ira Lexus...Danvers, Ma.)

I've had no reception problems at all...Programming took between 30-50 minutes and I've never looked back...

Raz

Heres the comparison between the two companies....Make your own decision...

http://www.sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/CachedPage&c=Page&cid=1065475754125

Toyota tunes in satellite radio
Published: December 7, 2004, 10:04 AM PST
By CNET News.com Staff

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Auto maker Toyota on Tuesday entered into separate deals with rival satellite radio service providers Sirius and XM.

Under its agreement with Sirius, Toyota will offer Sirius Satellite Radio service--either as a post-production or dealer-installed option--in nine models belonging to the Toyota, Lexus and Scion brands starting in February 2005.

The radios, with a manufacturer's suggested retail price of $299, excluding labor costs, can receive 120 commercial-free music, sports and news radio channels. The monthly subscription fee for the service will be $12.95.

In a separate announcement, Toyota said it has chosen XM Radio to provide satellite data services for 10 different models. The service, whose pricing has not been disclosed, will be available as a dealer-installed option starting in 2005. Vehicles with factory-installed XM radios will have to wait until 2006, however.

XM has a bouquet of 130 satellite channels that offer music, news, sports, weather and traffic information.

Sirius, which has had a deal with DaimlerChrysler for years, recently inked an agreement with Mercedes to offer its systems in the car maker's vehicles starting next year.

Satellite radio has garnered much attention recently, after Sirius lured Howard Stern and XM launched its Delphi MyFi handheld radio.

Just wanted to say thanks for the information regarding placement of the satellite radio antenna. I had my dealer remove the antenna from the factory trunk positioh (hideous) and place it on the rear shelf, just to the side of the brake light, up against the rear window glass. It's just placed there rather than being fastened down. It doesn't move and is unnoticable with the car's black interior.

I'm in Northeast Ohio and my XM works fine, other than when going under overpasses or in my garage. I wouldn't expect it to work well in my garage, but it usually is good enough with some dropouts. While driving it usually drops out while going under a highway overpass. I don't know if the dropouts would still occur if the antenna were on the trunk lid, but to me a few occassional dropouts is easily worth the price of not having the antenna on the trunk lid.

Just wanted to say thanks for the information regarding placement of the satellite radio antenna. I had my dealer remove the antenna from the factory trunk positioh (hideous) and place it on the rear shelf, just to the side of the brake light, up against the rear window glass. It's just placed there rather than being fastened down. It doesn't move and is unnoticable with the car's black interior.

I'm in Northeast Ohio and my XM works fine, other than when going under overpasses or in my garage. I wouldn't expect it to work well in my garage, but it usually is good enough with some dropouts. While driving it usually drops out while going under a highway overpass. I don't know if the dropouts would still occur if the antenna were on the trunk lid, but to me a few occassional dropouts is easily worth the price of not having the antenna on the trunk lid.I just picked up my 2006 GS430 Black/Chasmere and they put the antenna under the rear deck. I been driving around and it works fine, can't see anything.

Just wanted to say thanks for the information regarding placement of the satellite radio antenna. I had my dealer remove the antenna from the factory trunk positioh (hideous) and place it on the rear shelf, just to the side of the brake light, up against the rear window glass. It's just placed there rather than being fastened down. It doesn't move and is unnoticable with the car's black interior.

I'm in Northeast Ohio and my XM works fine, other than when going under overpasses or in my garage. I wouldn't expect it to work well in my garage, but it usually is good enough with some dropouts. While driving it usually drops out while going under a highway overpass. I don't know if the dropouts would still occur if the antenna were on the trunk lid, but to me a few occassional dropouts is easily worth the price of not having the antenna on the trunk lid.

Great that you didn't settle for the on the trunk placement.

Yes, XM requires a line of sight to the unit so no matter where you had located your unti you would still have drops whenever you are in a tunnel, under and overpass etc. I also have no reception in those areas or in my garage but on the road it's great. No complaints here.
Enjoy.

and others later. The ES, LS will have it first. The GS will get Sirius in late Summer we are advised. The Sirius antenna will be placed behind the rear view mirror. Also there is a new XM antenna that is smaller and less obtrusive no matter where you place it. Ironically I experienced a little dropout when driving a trunk mounted ES with XM on Saturday. Just temporarily and it grabbed the signal back a couple of seconds later. Now we need the IPOD port and ability to play MP3 CD's and then we're set.....I was reading my latest issue of Food and Wine and it said that 70% of the high end restaurants are running their sound systems from their IPODs. Sometimes they have guest IPOD nights etc. BTW, don't leave your start button in the on position as it will kill the battery overnight. One of my customers inadvertantly did so and I had to go jump it. Our new RX330 with Nav and yellow emergency lights is now ready for roadside assistance. Some dealers are in the pilot program and it should reduce the wait time for AAA to get there. Sorry about going off topic.....

Rock

The GS will get Sirius in late Summer we are advised. The Sirius antenna will be placed behind the rear view mirror.
Odd placement. Not sure how that would work, exactly, but GREAT about being able to get Sirius...

Rockville or anyone else,
Who is telling you that Sirius will be available for the GS later this summer. I have talked to Lexus and Sirius Customer Service reps. No one seems to know anything about Sirius. I just got a 2006 GS300 last week. I have put off having the XM installed because I wanted to research options for the install of the ugly antenna. I would be willing to wait until late summer to have Dealer install the satellite radio if I thought I could get Sirius or even a better antenna for XM. Any help regarding XM vs Sirius would be very much appreciated.

At this point, if I can not get Sirius, I am going to have the XM antenna installed on the back deck inside. My interior is black. I do not want the antenna (even if I had it painted) on the trunk. Way to tacky. I would not want the antenna on the trunk of any car, let alone a $40,000 +++ Lexus GS.

I've had XM in my GS430 with the antenna under the rear shelf for 3 months now. Works as well as XM can. You will get dropouts under overpasses and in canyons. Here in Los Angeles XM has several ground re-transmitters so you can get a singal in a parking structure if you are close to one of those repeaters. I would never put the antenna on the trunk. Looks way too ugly.

Rockville or anyone else,
Who is telling you that Sirius will be available for the GS later this summer. I have talked to Lexus and Sirius Customer Service reps. No one seems to know anything about Sirius. I just got a 2006 GS300 last week. I have put off having the XM installed because I wanted to research options for the install of the ugly antenna. I would be willing to wait until late summer to have Dealer install the satellite radio if I thought I could get Sirius or even a better antenna for XM. Any help regarding XM vs Sirius would be very much appreciated.

At this point, if I can not get Sirius, I am going to have the XM antenna installed on the back deck inside. My interior is black. I do not want the antenna (even if I had it painted) on the trunk. Way to tacky. I would not want the antenna on the trunk of any car, let alone a $40,000 +++ Lexus GS.

I've got literature from Lexus that shows the GS Satelite Radio Options. It had XM at the top with a part number and Sirius below with a Coming this Summer. It's definitely coming but many sales people just want to make a sale and many managers aren't informing their staff well enough. It's the old saying, sell what you can today and worry about future product when it comes out.

I spoke to a dealer here in CT, and they said it's not coming. I then pressed him on it and he said "why do you want Sirius anyway. My money's on XM, Stern is old news. " Can you believe that? I never asked for his opinion, just the facts on the part.

I disagree by the way and definitely holding out for Sirius. In so many ways it's the better of the two. Mely tried to post a link and it didn't quite work so I'll try the full address.

http://www.sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/CachedPage&c=Page&cid=1065475754125

Hmm for some reason Vbulletin won't allow the display of the entire URL. Let's try this again...You may have to cut and paste it into the address field of your browser. Make certain to tighten up the www

www . sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/CachedPage&c=Page&cid=1065475754125

SIRIUS has a new antenna that goes above the rear view mirror or right next to it. Its called SIGMA (SIRIUS Indoor Glass Mounted Antenna) I have pictures of it and will post a link to it. Infinity is already using these antennas for SIRIUS. XM also has a new antenna that still needs to be placed outside of the vehicle on the front window.

Here is the link to the PDF...

http://secure.grubbs.com/sat_install/05QX56WindsheildAntenna.pdf

This clearly shows that SIRIUS is the true leader. Why does everybody think SIRIUS is just Howard Stern? Educate yourself people, and if your too lazy ask me Ill be more then happy to give out info.

SIRIUS is coming for the GS...if you truly want it, be patient. My friend just bought a brand new Denali with factory XM and she is switching to SIRIUS because XM edits 80% of there music. Whats the point of paying for something edited? Makes no sense. TO each his own.

Great pics, Mely.

I have SIRIUS in my BMW and love it. Compared to what I have experienced of XM, I definitely think it's worth waiting for SIRIUS. The interior on-glass antenna option looks good, although I'm not sure I'd prefer that to one mounted next to the rear brake light on the back shelf (as they can do with XM now). With black interiors, those aren't even really noticeable.

that picture is interesting. the antenna is certainly bigger than the XM, but it looks decent. on a related note, i am wondering if that is the reason the black strip behind the mirror is designed the way it was, and not completely "dotted" in the same trapezoid shape most cars are to prevent glare in the center between the two visors.

does that mean the GS has been pre-wired to take SIRIUS on the front mounted glass? or are the techs going to have to peel back the headliner to get to it? :sad: sounds like the cost might be higher if the pre-wiring does not exist . . .

This clearly shows that SIRIUS is the true leader. Why does everybody think SIRIUS is just Howard Stern? Educate yourself people, and if your too lazy ask me Ill be more then happy to give out info.

SIRIUS is coming for the GS...if you truly want it, be patient. My friend just bought a brand new Denali with factory XM and she is switching to SIRIUS because XM edits 80% of there music. Whats the point of paying for something edited? Makes no sense. TO each his own.

Mainly because Stern get's most of the press. But he's one part of Sirius that will help them match subscribership with XM much sooner than most of the other favoring facts.

Funny you mention the editing of their music. Clear Channel is a major stockholder in XM Radio. I heard that the biggest rotation (A List for example) of music on XM Radio is given preference to artists with Clear Channel relationships! I've found a much better variety of music through Sirius.

Oops, XM just put 9.7million more shares out there to raise capital. Sell.

i'm going to get Sirius for one reason Howard Stern. I could really care less about everything else i'm not a big radio fan. I might check out a few Hip Hop stations, I have a friend that had XM and it seemed like all the songs were edited. Don't know how it is at Sirius I hope its not edited there as well.

I'm listening to Octane (ch20) right now through the internet. Very nice.

i'm going to get Sirius for one reason Howard Stern. I could really care less about everything else i'm not a big radio fan. I might check out a few Hip Hop stations, I have a friend that had XM and it seemed like all the songs were edited. Don't know how it is at Sirius I hope its not edited there as well.

The Hip Hop Stations on XM blow! Listen to Shade 45 on SIRIUS and you will listen to nothing else. From 4-8PM monday - friday they have the Rude Jude and Lord Sear show...it is hilarious.

Mainly because Stern get's most of the press. But he's one part of Sirius that will help them match subscribership with XM much sooner than most of the other favoring facts.

Funny you mention the editing of their music. Clear Channel is a major stockholder in XM Radio. I heard that the biggest rotation (A List for example) of music on XM Radio is given preference to artists with Clear Channel relationships! I've found a much better variety of music through Sirius.

Oops, XM just put 9.7million more shares out there to raise capital. Sell.

Actually Clear Channel used to be a investor in XM but they sold all there shares last year. XM's biggest backers are GM and Honda but even Honda is now selling off some of its shares. Maybe they are trying to get away from being exclusive sine the other Japanese automakers, Nissan and Toyota are not exclusive.

Who knows.

Just noticed your avatar. That's funny. Did you make that?

Just noticed your avatar. That's funny. Did you make that?

LOL...my GF made it.

and others later. The ES, LS will have it first. The GS will get Sirius in late Summer we are advised. The Sirius antenna will be placed behind the rear view mirror. Also there is a new XM antenna that is smaller and less obtrusive no matter where you place it. Ironically I experienced a little dropout when driving a trunk mounted ES with XM on Saturday. Just temporarily and it grabbed the signal back a couple of seconds later. Now we need the IPOD port and ability to play MP3 CD's and then we're set.....I was reading my latest issue of Food and Wine and it said that 70% of the high end restaurants are running their sound systems from their IPODs. Sometimes they have guest IPOD nights etc. BTW, don't leave your start button in the on position as it will kill the battery overnight. One of my customers inadvertantly did so and I had to go jump it. Our new RX330 with Nav and yellow emergency lights is now ready for roadside assistance. Some dealers are in the pilot program and it should reduce the wait time for AAA to get there. Sorry about going off topic.....

Rock

This might be the reason for the delay with Sirius. Maybe they were waiting for this new small antenna.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050714/nyth055.html?.v=15