2006 GS300 RWD Base $42,900

"Premium Package"
Rain Sensing Wipers/Adaptive Front Lighting System/Headlamp Cleaners $525
Power Tilt&Slide Moonroof $1000
Power Rear Sunshade $210
Ventilated Front Seats $200
Intuitive Park Assist $500

$45,335 plus LDA and Destination.



"Fully Loaded"
Mark Levinson w/ Navigation System $4,030
Intuitive Park Assist $500

$49,865 plus LDA and Destination.




There is also run flats and PCS, but it appears they aren't building those.

There's 424 coming to the Western Area.

No AWD's in the Western area for the first 3 months.

is the premium package mandatory or?

Is Lasercruise and Satellite radio standard on the GS?

is the premium package mandatory or?
Yes it is.

so navi and ml aren't included in the premium package?

Is Lasercruise and Satellite radio standard on the GS?

Satellite Radio appears to be on the new GS as an added accessory, just like what we have now on some other models.

No LaserCruise and I highly doubt that or PCS (Radar Cruise) will be on it anytime in the near future.

so navi and ml aren't included in the premium package?

There's 2 package choices on the GS300, Premium Package and Navi/Levi Package.

That is a big jump in pricing. :sad:

No sport package. :thumbdn: :thumbdn:

These packages / options are not that great, plus the GS will have the smallest engine in the class. What exactly is Lexus thinking?? :uh: :uh:

That is a big jump in pricing. :sad:

No sport package. :thumbdn: :thumbdn:

These packages / options are not that great, plus the GS will have the smallest engine in the class. What exactly is Lexus thinking?? :uh: :uh:

Lexus never said they were having a sport package and the current packages are what we've had for the past several years. It's got a brand new 6-speed V6 engine, definately faster than before...... and isn't that what you REALLY want??
;) ;) ;)

moonroof optional? that cant be right as how lexus made it standard in 03 models or something like that

moonroof optional? that cant be right as how lexus made it standard in 03 models or something like that
Yes it appears to have flipped back to an option.

how much for a fully loaded awd gs3?

how much for a fully loaded awd gs3?
Well, I'm not 100% sure on this because you're on the east coast, but if you add $1,950 more for a AWD then it comes to $51,815. But please remember the build could be different where you are.

thanks
thats a good ballpark figure

It is a huge jump in base price.

Are graphite wheels standard on either model?

Are graphite wheels standard on either model?
I haven't heard anything, I will have to get back to you on that one.

I think its absolutely bull**** to get a base RWD car for a non-base price.

Its exactly like that X+Y equation. Where X is the price of the base car...and Y is the option that has to be selected in order to buy the vehicle, making your true cost higher than what it should have been.

Here i was hoping to spend around 45-46K , and now its just gonna cost just over 50K after taxes.


I think ill have to talk to my dealer and see what he do for me so i can stay within where i want to. Maybe thats a waste of time to even think that but i dont know...maybe hell work it out with me.

To be fair, Lexus has probably proven itself enough to command a somewhat hefty increase in prices. It'd be nice to be priced lower than Infiniti and Acura, but with higher "name" comes higher prices, necessarily.

Also, it makes sense moonroof would be standard in later model years, then switched back to an option on a new release. It's a way for car companies to continually increase price throughout. You make more options mandatory, you bump up HP, add a couple new features, and then you can justify continually raising prices throughout the model life cycle. When the next mark is released, you raise the price a little bit more and revert previously standard equipment back to options so that consumers don't get sticker shock from the otherwise much higher base price.

Another trick that I've only seen Lexus use is this X+Y base pricing scheme. Clever, I must say. Deceiving, I also must say.

Elizabeth, I don't see a thread on more detailed pricing info for the 300 AWD. Do you not have that info because Longo won't get any for 3 months? If that's the case, then any Northeastern Lexus dealers have this info?

I think its absolutely bull**** to get a base RWD car for a non-base price.

Its exactly like that X+Y equation. Where X is the price of the base car...and Y is the option that has to be selected in order to buy the vehicle, making your true cost higher than what it should have been.
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I wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to sue Lexus for false advertising. I mean if there's no car that you can buy for the advertised base price, why advertise it so?

Is Lexus that worried about being called a copy cat to go the Acura route and call it as it is - we only sell loaded cars (NAV is the only real option)? :rolleyes:

I wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to sue Lexus for false advertising. I mean if there's no car that you can buy for the advertised base price, why advertise it so?

Is Lexus that worried about being called a copy cat to go the Acura route and call it as it is - we only sell loaded cars (NAV is the only real option)? :rolleyes:\

I would bet that the loop hole is that Lexus themselves don't require the add on packages, but all the dealers themselves require it. Maybe it is an unwritten agreement to avoid just such lawsuits. Lexus can always just claim the dealers make and sell their own packages. If that is not the case, I wouls agree that they shouldn't even bother listing the base price if it can't be had that way.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to sue Lexus for false advertising. I mean if there's no car that you can buy for the advertised base price, why advertise it so?

Is Lexus that worried about being called a copy cat to go the Acura route and call it as it is - we only sell loaded cars (NAV is the only real option)? :rolleyes:

Nothing really surprises you does it? How could Lexus be sued for false advertising? When Lexus advertises their cars in media form, they announce "prices start at" and not, This Lexus model is $39,xxx and we don't have it available. You can order a car as a "base model" granted you have to wait for it. Lexus allocates cars per region and of course the first initial shipments of vehicles are going to have the most popular option combinations. As you are forgetting, target demographic is not looking for the bare bones minimum Lexus, they either want a combination of X features or Y features. You can't sue Lexus because the region is sent vehicles with popular option packages. You still can get that "base" model car, but it won't be as readily available as a car with the popular options for that specific region.

You still can get that "base" model car, but it won't be as readily available as a car with the popular options for that specific region.
From the sound of it, no you can't.

From the sound of it, no you can't.

You can, but from the sound of it, you've never tried or never intended to buy one, correct? What you've heard and what you think always seem to contradict what you actually can do. And where is that Lexus USA dealership in Switzerland again you heard this from? Didn't think so. :rolleyes:

Elizabeth, I don't see a thread on more detailed pricing info for the 300 AWD. Do you not have that info because Longo won't get any for 3 months? If that's the case, then any Northeastern Lexus dealers have this info?
Erick G already asked that on the first page. I answered in post #13. I sort of guessed it to be around $51,815 for a Navi/Levi AWD.
No AWD's coming to the Western area for the first 3 months so yes, please check with your local Maryland dealer.

Elizabeth...are you positive about the wood steering and wood shifter being standard on the base RWD GS300? Im asking because weve seen cars at the autoshows that have plain leather steering and leather shifters without any wood on either, like the picture from the member who went to the portland autoshow.

Can i order the base car now from a dealership, now that the pricing and packages have been determined? I dont want the premium package....just the base GS300 that is 42,900.

If i order now, do you think i can have it by end of march or april? or, when do u think ill be able to get it?

thanks so much =)

Elizabeth...are you positive about the wood steering and wood shifter being standard on the base RWD GS300? Im asking because weve seen cars at the autoshows that have plain leather steering and leather shifters without any wood on either, like the picture from the member who went to the portland autoshow.

Can i order the base car now from a dealership, now that the pricing and packages have been determined? I dont want the premium package....just the base GS300 that is 42,900.

If i order now, do you think i can have it by end of march or april? or, when do u think ill be able to get it?

thanks so much =)
I am 100% positive on the wood steering wheel and custom orders take at least 3 months.

is the premium package mandatory or?

I am really confused here. If Premium package is MANDATORY, how is then moonroof optional when it comes with Premium package?

Or did Elizabeth wanted to say that it wont be available as much (or at all) except for special orders?

Base GS is really hardly an "base" car - it is better equiped that most cars in its class, but I guess they also want to compete with BMW and MB with prices as well just offering more equipment. It doesnt make much sense really, to me it sounds much better like:

GS 300 Base - 42k
GS 300 Premium - 45k
GS 300 Premium with NAV and ML system - 49k

By calling it an package and not what it is - an model, you might have some disgruntled potential customers. I know thats how Lexus does things, it might attract customers to the showrooms but as long as the base is available, then it is ok. If base car can not be ordered, then it is obviously something you can easily get worked up on.

It is something that is fairly obvious when you research over the net, but easily understandable if you are at the showroom...

I am really confused here. If Premium package is MANDATORY, how is then moonroof optional when it comes with Premium package?

Or did Elizabeth wanted to say that it wont be available as much (or at all) except for special orders?

Base GS is really hardly an "base" car - it is better equiped that most cars in its class, but I guess they also want to compete with BMW and MB with prices as well just offering more equipment. It doesnt make much sense really, to me it sounds much better like:

GS 300 Base - 42k
GS 300 Premium - 45k
GS 300 Premium with NAV and ML system - 49k

By calling it an package and not what it is - an model, you might have some disgruntled potential customers. I know thats how Lexus does things, it might attract customers to the showrooms but as long as the base is available, then it is ok. If base car can not be ordered, then it is obviously something you can easily get worked up on.

It is something that is fairly obvious when you research over the net, but easily understandable if you are at the showroom...
Sorry you are so confused! It's realy quite simple. First decide if you want a "nicely equipped" or one with "all the bells and whistles". Nicely equipped is AROUND $45k and all the bells and whistles go for AROUND $49k. If you decide neither of those two packages work for you, then it's time to decide whether or not you want to special order. This process is the same with all dealers and it's been the same two package choices for the past several years. Nothing has changed in that aspect.
Also, I would like to mention the reason I "broke it down" for everyone is so you could see exactly what you are getting and paying for. I really did not do it to confuse people or "disgruntle" them. Most car buying internet sites do it this way also (ie. CarsDirect).

That being said, what color would you like to get Spywolf? (lol)
:) :) :)

It is simple. Dealers order the cars they feel they have the best chance of selling. They usually bundle the most requested/sold packages.
Its rare for people to buy a Lexus base, with nothing. As rare as the 1% of Lexus with cloth seats. But it can be done, you just have to be patient. It is a new release.

Dealers have ordered cars and Lexus has sent cars they think they will sell in what areas. As Elizabeth has stated, the South pretty much won't get AWD. We don't really need it (except for this weekend, lol).
Besides, you can order from any dealer you want, if its that important. And yeah, the dealer would rather want to sell whats on the lot, but they can make a special order. For a luxury car, that can take 6-8 months. Any brand.

The price is very competative and on par with the outgoing model considering its all new and the new features the previous car did not have nor offer.

It is simple. Dealers order the cars they feel they have the best chance of selling. They usually bundle the most requested/sold packages.
Its rare for people to buy a Lexus base, with nothing. As rare as the 1% of Lexus with cloth seats. But it can be done, you just have to be patient. It is a new release.

Dealers have ordered cars and Lexus has sent cars they think they will sell in what areas. As Elizabeth has stated, the South pretty much won't get AWD. We don't really need it (except for this weekend, lol).
Besides, you can order from any dealer you want, if its that important. And yeah, the dealer would rather want to sell whats on the lot, but they can make a special order. For a luxury car, that can take 6-8 months. Any brand.

The price is very competative and on par with the outgoing model considering its all new and the new features the previous car did not have nor offer.

Understood. Here's where I got/get confused. On the Lexus website, when you try to build your own car, the first page lists "available packages." I couldn't find a way to unselect any/all, so it seemed like you HAD to get one of them and its associated higher cost.

They need to reconfigure that site. I guess what they're trying to do is only let you see what is available at dealers in your area, though... :sad:

is power trunk closer, and power folding side-view mirrors part of the premium package?

is power trunk closer, and power folding side-view mirrors part of the premium package?
I don't think so, but I am not positive on this so I wil have to get back to you.

Elizabeth,
will there be any markdown from MSRP at any dealerships in US at all ?or will everyonne be sellig at MSRP ?
thnx.

What a rip off!!! What's Lexus thinking? :egads:

For that price.....I rather get the Acura RL. :thumbup: :woohoo:

How is the new GS a rip off? The Acura RL is fairly expensive as well. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure all of these price increases are sustainable.

RL went up 10K in real terms, the GS300 at least 5K, the M45 about 10K also (the only saving grace for Infiniti is that they have a cheaper M35 to sell now). Either a lot of folks will change over from the European sedans (or some other vehicle (high end SUV?) in this price range) or someone will blink and the discounting will begin when sales falter.

How is the new GS a rip off? The Acura RL is fairly expensive as well. :rolleyes:

Probably he/she means for less money you get more features.

Lexus charges more than the Japanese competition because their prestige level is higher. They charge less than the Germans because their prestige level is less. It's also why Audi has to price less than MB and BMW.

I just got back from my dealership and was told this: they r getting the car for delivery in FEBRUARY 2005!!!! THAT’S RIGHT…IN THIS MONTH IN A FEW WEEKS!!!! Heres what my salesman confirmed for me:


“We r getting two shipments of the new GS….one allocation is coming mid february to the end of third week. The next shipment is between the 20th and end of February. The total number of cars we are getting is 12. 6 in each shipment. What car and with what options are u looking for?”

I said”: “Im looking for a RWD base GS300 with no package or options….mercury metallic with ash interior and black wood on steering and shifter.

He told me.. “all cars we are getting will have the premium package at the very least…you can custom order the car if u want but lexus will not do one right now for three months…after three months – u can order the car u want..which is 42,900 and get that…and then it wud take 3 months for it to come…so u r looking at 6 months from today”

I said “…No I don’t want to wait 6 months”

He said hes getting 2 mercury metallic cars with the premium package and ash interior with black wood on shifter and steering ..one ine ach of their February allocations…the first one is already sold – to the guy who was like 2nd in line on the list…the other mercury metallic is coming end of February..so he said I can either wait for that or get another car.

I said my second color choice is flint mica with ash interior and black wood with premium package..he said he has one coming in the first allocation and one in the second..so I told him I’m open to that as an option.

He said they r one of the very few dealerships that will have any new GS In February for DELIVERY. And he said I was one of the very few lucky ones to be so high up in the list to get one. Im 15th by the way…andhe told me that some people that are ahead of me decided not to purchase so that’s why I got moved up higher. =)

Flipside,

What I meant was for that kind of money the Acura RL got more standard features to offer....PLUS.....it's got 300HP!!!!! :thumbup:

Flipside,

What I meant was for that kind of money the Acura RL got more standard features to offer....PLUS.....it's got 300HP!!!!! :thumbup:

Definitely a bargain for sure, but i'm partial to Toyota made vehicles and their unprecidented quality and value. Toyota & Lexus vehicles are definitely a higher standard.

O/T I'm one of those that feel the TL is a better overall value than the RL. But save that for another thread. ;)

O/T I'm one of those that feel the TL is a better overall value than the RL. But save that for another thread. ;)

I doubt many would disagree.

Elizabeth,
will there be any markdown from MSRP at any dealerships in US at all ?or will everyonne be sellig at MSRP ?
thnx.
I think everyone will charge MSRP.

Flipside,

What I meant was for that kind of money the Acura RL got more standard features to offer....PLUS.....it's got 300HP!!!!! :thumbup:
Sigh.....to some of us, the RL is a rip-off.
:)

Flipside,

What I meant was for that kind of money the Acura RL got more standard features to offer....PLUS.....it's got 300HP!!!!! :thumbup:

Ye but its still an Acura. At this point i would NEVER spend 50k for an Acura if for just a few more thousand i can get a fully loaded GS300 AWD.

I know a couple friends and relatives who have the TL, they were sooo happy with all the standard stuff they got for a great price. My friend was telling me i got 260hp, my car is so fast, and its cheaper than your overpriced slow GS. Now that same guy is getting his transmision replaced and his car is a 2002 same as mine. My aunt also with a TL already replaced hers. :thumbdn: :thumbdn:

Ye but its still an Acura. At this point i would NEVER spend 50k for an Acura if for just a few more thousand i can get a fully loaded GS300 AWD.

I know a couple friends and relatives who have the TL, they were sooo happy with all the standard stuff they got for a great price. My friend was telling me i got 260hp, my car is so fast, and its cheaper than your overpriced slow GS. Now that same guy is getting his transmision replaced and his car is a 2002 same as mine. My aunt also with a TL already replaced hers. :thumbdn: :thumbdn:
If you read forums, this is sadly the story for many. THey bought what they thought was a smoking deal but the reasons why the deal was so hot start popping up left and right.

Here are RL sales, they are down almost 30% from last month.
1320 in October.
1941 in November.
1967 for December.
1,371 for January 05.

I give Sick a lot of credit for these numbers being factual... reason?

He is right...I have only seen 2 RL'S on the road since October 2004 when they came out...LOL and we are in February of 2005 now...4 months now and onyl 2 RL's on the road....lolllllll thats pretty sad for a picture in HOUSTON, one of the largest cities in the country, dont you think?

If you read forums, this is sadly the story for many. THey bought what they thought was a smoking deal but the reasons why the deal was so hot start popping up left and right.

Here are RL sales, they are down almost 30% from last month.
1320 in October.
1941 in November.
1967 for December.
1,371 for January 05.

You probably saw this in the same thread I did. I suspect the decline is in large part due to historically slow January sales for automobiles, but I do find them troubling (for Acura). When the public's attention shifts to the M and GS in the next couple months, I wouldn't be surprised to see RL sales hover slightly below 1,000/month.

Regardless, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

ok, don't flame me, but does anyone think the GS300 is a bit steep when you compare to the new M35? I'm not a huge Infiniti fan but the M35 has 280 HP and starts at $39K, or you can even get the M35 sport model for $42k. That's still about $3k less than the new GS300 with mandatory premium package, and you are giving up 35 horsepower and .5 liters engine size to boot. It seems like the only Lexus advantage is the 6sp trans vs. 5 sp in the M.

Like I said I'm not a huge Infiniti fan but you have to give them credit for agressive pricing + performance. Hell, you can get the M45 starting at $45K I think? Over 330hp, that's pretty impressive at that price point in my book.

IMHO Lexus needed to have the GS300 start around $40k. There just isn't that much to blow you away about this car, especially when you start pushing $50 for a GS300!

ok, don't flame me, but does anyone think the GS300 is a bit steep when you compare to the new M35? I'm not a huge Infiniti fan but the M35 has 280 HP and starts at $39K, or you can even get the M35 sport model for $42k. That's still about $3k less than the new GS300 with mandatory premium package, and you are giving up 35 horsepower and .5 liters engine size to boot. It seems like the only Lexus advantage is the 6sp trans vs. 5 sp in the M.

Like I said I'm not a huge Infiniti fan but you have to give them credit for agressive pricing + performance. Hell, you can get the M45 starting at $45K I think? Over 330hp, that's pretty impressive at that price point in my book.

IMHO Lexus needed to have the GS300 start around $40k. There just isn't that much to blow you away about this car, especially when you start pushing $50 for a GS300!
merlin, close your eyes and forget the HP for a minute. The Lexus has a new 6 speed auto, the M has a 5. The GS has strong resale, the M does not. Basically, the M shares tons of parts, thus the cheaper price. The GS is built in the worlds best auto plant alongside the LS 430.
The GS has the goods deserving of its price.

You probably saw this in the same thread I did. I suspect the decline is in large part due to historically slow January sales for automobiles, but I do find them troubling (for Acura). When the public's attention shifts to the M and GS in the next couple months, I wouldn't be surprised to see RL sales hover slightly below 1,000/month.

Regardless, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Well some cars saw an increase in sales, that is why I can't blame the weather/January. And AWD vehicles sell stronger in winter months b/c that is a huge selling point (snow, inclement weather). 20k is the RLs goal, 1500k x 12 months is 18k so they need to sell about 1700 a month avg. I think they can still hit it.

IMHO Lexus needed to have the GS300 start around $40k. There just isn't that much to blow you away about this car, especially when you start pushing $50 for a GS300!

Well if you did that, looking at the long term...you'll have 1) A fad car like the Nissan/Infiniti sales roller coaster, 2) resale value tends to drop when there are more of the same car out. The Camry unfortunately suffers that syndrome being the best selling passenger car in American for several years now.

For the "target demographic" of this car, the GS3 will appeal to most. There are alot of things that people see in the new 06 GS that people tend to forget like quality, prestige, value and longevity. This is something Lexus and Toyota in general has over any other car manufacturer, and explains why they have more repeat customers than any brand. Brand loyalty is key here. ;)

[QUOTE=1SICKLEX]merlin, close your eyes and forget the HP for a minute. The Lexus has a new 6 speed auto, the M has a 5. The GS has strong resale, the M does not. Basically, the M shares tons of parts, thus the cheaper price. The GS is built in the worlds best auto plant alongside the LS 430.
The GS has the goods deserving of its price.


No question the GS is a great car, well built and has a lot to be said for it. And HP is not everything, that's for sure. If it was I wouldn't be driving a GS300 now!

But as I think about getting a new car this year, it is just tough to justify another GS300 at $45-$46k+ As I mentioned, the M35 sport looks awfully tempting at the low $40's

And I don't think you can use the current M's resale to predict the new one. It is a different model, more in common with the G35 (which has good resale) than the current M45. The early reviews indicate good interior quality, too, although Lexus will probably win in this regard.

I haven't seen both cars in person so I can't make any judgements now. I'm just a little bummed that Lexus went up in price quite a bit when some of the competition seems to give you a little more for the same or less.

[QUOTE=1SICKLEX]merlin, close your eyes and forget the HP for a minute. The Lexus has a new 6 speed auto, the M has a 5. The GS has strong resale, the M does not. Basically, the M shares tons of parts, thus the cheaper price. The GS is built in the worlds best auto plant alongside the LS 430.
The GS has the goods deserving of its price.


No question the GS is a great car, well built and has a lot to be said for it. And HP is not everything, that's for sure. If it was I wouldn't be driving a GS300 now!

But as I think about getting a new car this year, it is just tough to justify another GS300 at $45-$46k+ As I mentioned, the M35 sport looks awfully tempting at the low $40's

And I don't think you can use the current M's resale to predict the new one. It is a different model, more in common with the G35 (which has good resale) than the current M45. The early reviews indicate good interior quality, too, although Lexus will probably win in this regard.

I haven't seen both cars in person so I can't make any judgements now. I'm just a little bummed that Lexus went up in price quite a bit when some of the competition seems to give you a little more for the same or less.


No doubt, the M35/45 is a great buy. Similar to how the 2nd gen GS stunned with pricing 8 years ago.

It seems that a similary equipped GS300 is about $2500 to $3000 more than a M35. No doubt both cars will sell near MSRP at the beginning.

I'm sure that when you get a chance to test drive both cars, you'll have a clearer idea what you'll want. Either way, both seem like great cars.

I also agree with you that the M resale will be more like the G35, FX, and Altima, all of which have great, if not class-leading resale.

merlin, close your eyes and forget the HP for a minute. The Lexus has a new 6 speed auto, the M has a 5. The GS has strong resale, the M does not. Basically, the M shares tons of parts, thus the cheaper price. The GS is built in the worlds best auto plant alongside the LS 430.
The GS has the goods deserving of its price.


Well some cars saw an increase in sales, that is why I can't blame the weather/January. And AWD vehicles sell stronger in winter months b/c that is a huge selling point (snow, inclement weather). 20k is the RLs goal, 1500k x 12 months is 18k so they need to sell about 1700 a month avg. I think they can still hit it.

Audi sold 1209 A6's in January. This was an increase from last year. I found that pretty surprising...

BTW, I read that January allocations of the RL were down from previous months. I can't remember if February ones are as well, but March is back to normal.

longo lexus, about when are you expecting your first shipments to come in?

longo lexus, about when are you expecting your first shipments to come in?
Feb 14th..same as everybody else! I can't wait......*drool*
:woohoo:

Elizabeth...i talked to my dealer yesterday..my sales rep told me that if i decide to lease the vehicle, i do NOT need to have full insurance coverage on the car, but i WILL need GAP coverage. After talkign to ppl who have lease vehicles right now, they told me theres no way that can be true as lease vehicles all have to have FULL insurance coverage.

So why did my sales rep tell me that? I asked him THREE times to be sure and his answer was the same..."you do NOT need to have full coverage..you can get minimum insurance coverage, but you MUST take GAP insurance". Is he telling me the truth or playing with words, with me?

Elizabeth...i talked to my dealer yesterday..my sales rep told me that if i decide to lease the vehicle, i do NOT need to have full insurance coverage on the car, but i WILL need GAP coverage. After talkign to ppl who have lease vehicles right now, they told me theres no way that can be true as lease vehicles all have to have FULL insurance coverage.

So why did my sales rep tell me that? I asked him THREE times to be sure and his answer was the same..."you do NOT need to have full coverage..you can get minimum insurance coverage, but you MUST take GAP insurance". Is he telling me the truth or playing with words, with me?
Most banks require the maximum insurance coverage. Lexus Financial Services requires medium coverage.
The problem is this: why would you want to have the cheapest coverage on $45k car? Get the maximum coverage, just in case. Doesn't matter if you lease OR buy. You never know what might happen.

And always always always get GAP insurance. Usually GAP is included with high-line car leases.

is power trunk closer, and power folding side-view mirrors part of the premium package?
Yes, both features are on the car. The control panel is located on the lower dash to the left of the steering wheel.

It's official......22 City and 30 HWY. .....wow, that's the best out of all the Lexus' EVER.
:thumbup:

Elizabeth...Im sorry but im a little confused. My dealer sales rep told me that if i decide to lease, Lexus Financial Services is the ONLY bank that would do that. If i wanted to finance, then i can go through them or any other credit union that i wanted to go with.

Secondly, my rep told me that minimum coverage is all that is required. If i do get maximum coverage, the insurance premium I will pay will be higher off course. But again, my rep told me minimum is all that is required. So if all i get is the minimum insurance coverage and if the car gets into a wreck or someone hits and dents it pretty bad, etc...what will be the situation? Who is responsible for that and for the payment for the damage on the vehicle?

Ahhhh i wish my rep was straight forward with me =(

Oh and one another thing...my rep told me that all i need is minimum insurance coverage , but i will need to purchase GAP insurance..He said that is NOT an option with leasing...gap insurance MUST be taken and again minimum insurance is all that is required.

What will happen if the car gets in a wreck or soemone damamges it bad or sumthign bad happens and all i have is the minimum insurance coverage with gap insurance????


Im so confused!!!

Elizabeth...Im sorry but im a little confused. My dealer sales rep told me that if i decide to lease, Lexus Financial Services is the ONLY bank that would do that. If i wanted to finance, then i can go through them or any other credit union that i wanted to go with.

Secondly, my rep told me that minimum coverage is all that is required. If i do get maximum coverage, the insurance premium I will pay will be higher off course. But again, my rep told me minimum is all that is required. So if all i get is the minimum insurance coverage and if the car gets into a wreck or someone hits and dents it pretty bad, etc...what will be the situation? Who is responsible for that and for the payment for the damage on the vehicle?

Ahhhh i wish my rep was straight forward with me =(
All dealers use the same lenders. Lexus Financial is the best because there is no disposal fee at the end. GAP is already included with LFS. Whatever bank your dealer chooses is up to them. Do not get the smallest insurance, it is too risky. IF you aren't fully covered in a lease/finance, you crash, YOU are responsible to pay out of your own pocket. Not a good idea.

If you read forums, this is sadly the story for many. THey bought what they thought was a smoking deal but the reasons why the deal was so hot start popping up left and right.

Here are RL sales, they are down almost 30% from last month.
1320 in October.
1941 in November.
1967 for December.
1,371 for January 05.

The reason why sales is down is because the RL is over priced! This is going to happen to the GS too.....unless they drop their prices!!!
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The reason why sales is down is because the RL is over priced! This is going to happen to the GS too.....unless they drop their prices!!!
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Reason why RL Sales are down is because the M and the GS are coming. They are much better cars than the RL overall. :rolleyes:

Another added feature is a sunlight sensor for the instrument panel. Have you ever driven around during a certain time of day and when the sun hits through your back window, you are unable to read the instrument panel. Well, fear no more! There is a "sunlight sensor" on the backwindow underneath the third brakelight and it automatically dims or brightens your instrument panel. Pretty cool!
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You forgot to tell them that hidden panel control for the mirrors and the dash dimmer and etc is backlit! :D

I was trying to spread it out, but thanks for finishing it........j/k
:rolleyes:
How about the LED dual dome lights?

Have you ever tried to get your car out of a really tight parking spot? Not sure if you have enough room to clear the pole ina parking structure or you might scrape the corner of your front bumper? Not to worry! Now you have "Sonar Park Assist". The back is regular park assist, but the front works off of sonar. The turning radius of the steering wheel and the car think together and calculate if you have enough room to clear your corners. A little green steering wheel appears on the navigation screen to give you the a-okay! You may never have scratches on your bumpers again. :thumbup:

OK I really need that! :) Elizabeth you are having a lot of fun aren't you! ;)

LOL....well, I could do it the boring way.......just copy the memo in all technical terminology, but I figured I'd do something different, like explain in a language that the average person can understand in a real life situation. And yes, this is fun!
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LOL....well, I could do it the boring way.......just copy the memo in all technical terminology, but I figured I'd do something different, like explain in a language that the average person can understand in a real life situation. And yes, this is fun!
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Hey, I'm enjoying it! :)

Any info about in cabin ambient lighting?

thanks

I got a question about the suspension settings. Is it true that their will be 4 suspension modes with 4 buttons of some sort to chnage your stiffness etc... or is this just a feature included in a safety feature that is automatically controlled by the vehicle trip computer?

Yes it is true...from what i know - u will be manually allowed to change the settings depending on the suspension setting you wish to desire driving the car on...and there are 4 from normal to performance. Anyone else can shed some light on this perhaps????

I don't know but I read on the web that it will have only 2 settings
http://www.lexus-europe.com/magazine/sixthsense.asp

Or maybe I didn't understand right

I'm having trouble deciding now; 3-series, M 35, or GS. All appear to be great choices

hmm elizabeth. May i know at the rear, besides the center console air con vents, are there anymore for the rear? are there vanity mirrors for rear passengers?

I'm having trouble deciding now; 3-series, M 35, or GS. All appear to be great choices
Although they might be close on price ( a well optioned 330), the E90 330 is a smaller car than the other two. I don't think you'll see any 3 series in a comparo with the other two. On performance, MT availability and gas milage the 330 wins - the M35 or GS300 will be a better choice for most other things.

According to lexus europe, they say there will be only 2 suspension settings...i could have sworn i read in a thread and somewhere else there was word about 4 settings. :uh:

hmm elizabeth. May i know at the rear, besides the center console air con vents, are there anymore for the rear? are there vanity mirrors for rear passengers?
There's no vanity mirrors in the back seat and I haven't heard of them adding any more air vents.

I got a question about the suspension settings. Is it true that their will be 4 suspension modes with 4 buttons of some sort to chnage your stiffness etc... or is this just a feature included in a safety feature that is automatically controlled by the vehicle trip computer?

I haven't heard anything about different suspsension settings. Will have to get back to you on this one.

Any info about in cabin ambient lighting?

thanks
The lighting is different, unlike anything I have ever seen in a car. They look like little round LED lights and there's about 4 in the front and 4 in the back for the dome lighting. Really cool. One of the things I like about Lexus is the attention to detail. They could've done some cheap dome lighting, but took time to design new lighting system. Awesome. :thumbup:

thanks for the info!

My sales rep, Karen Knutson, of Portland Lexus sent me a one page sheet of the prices. They're consistent with Elizabeth's but it's nice to get local confirmation. Portland is a major Toyota import facility so hopefully we'll get to see it soon.