Do you think there will be any dealer that will budge on the price of the new GS? I've heard stories that when new cars come out, dealers might sell it under msrp the first few weeks so there will be more cars on the road. Also, with the "competition" of the RL and M45 there might be an incentive to lower the price or is this just wishful thinking?

Your chances of getting a new model that is newly released in it's first year of sale is ZERO. You will most likely see markups more than anything. As supply meets demand...and as time goes on, the prices will drop. Don't expect to see sales of the 06 GS under MSRP for a while.

I'm thinking you have 2 chances, slim and none :) And definately more of the none!

Do you think there will be any dealer that will budge on the price of the new GS? I've heard stories that when new cars come out, dealers might sell it under msrp the first few weeks so there will be more cars on the road. Also, with the "competition" of the RL and M45 there might be an incentive to lower the price or is this just wishful thinking?
Unlesss you really are good with a dealer, probably none. Or you can try buying at a smaller dealer.

The new Mustang GT's are going for 5K over list in my parts.

Since when does buying from a smaller dealer mean you will get a better deal? The dealer whose allotment is small will do everything in his power to hold at MSRP or above. In fact, it will most likely be the smaller guy, if any, that marks up above MSRP. I experienced this first hand in 1997 when I needed to be one of the first to get the new C-5 Corvette. The small and medium dealers were selling for $5,000-15,000 above MSRP, while the largest Corvette dealer in the country sold 10-20 cars a week for MSRP.

While it will be difficult to buy the new GS under MSRP, it will not be impossible. Also, this trend will NOT last a full year....maybe 6 months. The fact that there are so many redesigned direct competiors will help potential 2006 GS buyers buy for under MSRP.

Lastly, the differential between invoice and MSRP seems to be noticably higher for Lexus versus it biggest competitors. This would seem to indicate that dealers could and will give a little on price, if not at first, certainly after 6 months.

Since when does buying from a smaller dealer mean you will get a better deal? The dealer whose allotment is small will do everything in his power to hold at MSRP or above. In fact, it will most likely be the smaller guy, if any, that marks up above MSRP. I experienced this first hand in 1997 when I needed to be one of the first to get the new C-5 Corvette. The small and medium dealers were selling for $5,000-15,000 above MSRP, while the largest Corvette dealer in the country sold 10-20 cars a week for MSRP.

While it will be difficult to buy the new GS under MSRP, it will not be impossible. Also, this trend will NOT last a full year....maybe 6 months. The fact that there are so many redesigned direct competiors will help potential 2006 GS buyers buy for under MSRP.

Lastly, the differential between invoice and MSRP seems to be noticably higher for Lexus versus it biggest competitors. This would seem to indicate that dealers could and will give a little on price, if not at first, certainly after 6 months.

Good point marcpitch. I was wrong in my assesment.
:)

A good indicatior might be the RL - they're all going for MSRP now - I bet by April they will start to come down.

The other thing that might influence the sales is the availability of the GS350 - if people are waiting for those there might be some price movement on the GS300. I wonder if that's why Lexus is offering the GS300 now - if the sales are not going good enough they'll switch to the GS350.

A good indicatior might be the RL - they're all going for MSRP now - I bet by April they will start to come down.

The other thing that might influence the sales is the availability of the GS350 - if people are waiting for those there might be some price movement on the GS300. I wonder if that's why Lexus is offering the GS300 now - if the sales are not going good enough they'll switch to the GS350.


The RL is already going for under MRSP in s. cali. around 2k . Also I doubt the 350 will be out anytim soon.

Also I doubt the 350 will be out anytim soon.
If I were a knowledgeable person (someone who hangs out here perhaps) and know the GS350 is right around the corner (next year) I'd hold off buying the GS300 now.
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Guys,

not too many people have a better hookup on Lexus vehicles than me (quick refresher - my wife's family owns 3 Lexus dealerships and a total of 20+ car dealerships - at least 7 are in the Toyota family including the 3 Lexus) and I can't get a new (1st year) model of any Lexus until all customer wait list orders are filled. So I'm leaning towards slim to none :nono: , but hey if you do, more power to ya! :woohoo:

the waiting list on the 06 gs is long. it's not as long as that for the rx330 though, but it's long enough to keep the price way up for quite a while. imho, don't even try to look for deals the first year

waiting list? all the dealers I have called in s. cali haven't even started a waiting list.

waiting list? all the dealers I have called in s. cali haven't even started a waiting list.

for sure you didn't call longo lexus to start with. they have a list with more than 50 people already, and the list started early 2004 if i remember right

watch me get a price of at least $1,000 under MSRP during the first 6 months of the 2006 intro....unless I decide on the M45

watch me get a price of at least $1,000 under MSRP during the first 6 months of the 2006 intro....unless I decide on the M45


and how do you plan on doing that?

Guys,

not too many people have a better hookup on Lexus vehicles than me (quick refresher - my wife's family owns 3 Lexus dealerships and a total of 20+ car dealerships - at least 7 are in the Toyota family including the 3 Lexus) and I can't get a new (1st year) model of any Lexus until all customer wait list orders are filled. So I'm leaning towards slim to none :nono: , but hey if you do, more power to ya! :woohoo:

Well, does your wife have any sisters :bigok: (SICK gets on that waiting list).j/k dude.

and how do you plan on doing that?

point a gun at the GM? :D

i think 1k off msrp is doable towards the mid to end of the year, but to me if it's something that's based on the msrp price not invoice, that's kinda tough to justify :)

First, I am not in or near CA...I have a dealer relationship also...not nearly like family owned dealerships, etc, but strong history of purchasing Lexus' and Toyota's. My guess is the guy who has the family ties to Lexus dealerships is looking at getting cars for close to invoice. I do not assume to get such a deal. I know what is reasonable. Of course, with a new hot car, even family members would not be given amazing deals with demand high.

I am not saying I will get $1,000k+ off MSRP in March, but I know I can get it by summer from a very large dealership in the midwest. Since I am not being forced to get a new car this year, I can afford to wait and evaiuate the car, the deals, and the compettion....then, in the summer or fall I should have a clear idea of which car and which deal is best for me.

At this point , it appears narrowed down to the GS or Infiniti M - not sure of the 6 or 8 cylinders for either. Test Drives and prices will make my decision. Either way, it is an exciting decision to make.

Well, I dont know how many of you will believe me, but I am not paying sticker for my GS...i have a hookup through a toyota dealership who i bought an 05 solara from...he talked to the GM and he is close buddies with the guy. He introduced me to the GM and we spoke on the phone and he flat out told me hes going to charge over sticker for the car but for me, he said hell give me a "steal-deal"...since the guy who sold me th solara was buddies with him. He was doing it asa favor to me.

I was freakin excited as hell and couldnt wait. He agreed to take 3-5K below MSRP...didnt say anythign about invoice....

but who cares...3-5K is freakin BADASS...u wont find that redution for about a year and a half maybe more.



By the way....this is for delivery WHEN IT HITS THE DEALERSHIP..in MARCH...not like months later...


thats why i know this is a real deal on the car for me.

Having trouble understanding how a guy who has a Solara and uses the word "freakin'" can get such a great deal.....hmmmmm.

Having trouble understanding how a guy who has a Solara and uses the word "freakin'" can get such a great deal.....hmmmmm.
Anything is possible. :)

Ok. So maybe the thread should be renamed to "What are the chances of getting the 06 GS under msrp if you are just joe blow with no dealership connections?" ;)

And to those that can, congrats and post back when you get the car. :)

lol i say freakin cuz its used here in tx a lot...i guess its a tx thing. But oh well. I think im going to get a super deal on this car. The GM told me the price id get it for, I could turn around and sell the car and make the 3-5k in profit on it.

Does anyone know if theyll offer the black interior with black wood? i hate the cherry red color wood. Im thinking flint mica with black interior , silver with black interior or lt. gray..black with black interior or lt gray. But whichever one - has to have black wood inside. I dont know....

Does anyone know if they will offer the black interior with black wood? flipside909 is probably the only one that cud answer that...


Now that i think about it....the sportdesign birds eye maple wood...now THAT was badass! I wonder if theyll offer that. they must offer that too....it made them so much money since everyones now that has a GS wanted that package...and whoever has it is praising it nonstop.

lol i say freakin cuz its used here in tx a lot...i guess its a tx thing. But oh well. I think im going to get a super deal on this car. The GM told me the price id get it for, I could turn around and sell the car and make the 3-5k in profit on it.

Does anyone know if theyll offer the black interior with black wood? i hate the cherry red color wood. Im thinking flint mica with black interior , silver with black interior or lt. gray..black with black interior or lt gray. But whichever one - has to have black wood inside. I dont know....

Does anyone know if they will offer the black interior with black wood? flipside909 is probably the only one that cud answer that...


Now that i think about it....the sportdesign birds eye maple wood...now THAT was badass! I wonder if theyll offer that. they must offer that too....it made them so much money since everyones now that has a GS wanted that package...and whoever has it is praising it nonstop.

Black wood aka black bird's eye maple is only going to be offered in the light gray interior as far as I know. An all black leather and black wood would definitely look very nice. So far, the trim options stand.

What is going to be the MSRP on the new design for the following:

GS300?
GS300 AWD?
GS430?

Anyone know where i can find this information?

What is going to be the MSRP on the new design for the following:

GS300?
GS300 AWD?
GS430?

Anyone know where i can find this information?

i don't think anyone knows the answers to that yet :)

i don't think anyone knows the answers to that yet :)

Any guesses....I can't wait to change my signature.... :woohoo:

Hey man im guessin a fully loaded gs300 between $41-44$ a fully loaded gs300 wut awd guessin $43-46$ and im guessin fully loaded gs430 between $52-55$ All guesses nothign final YeT!

My buddy got close to invoice on his BMW M3 by showing up with a cashier's check as a down payment (something like $25K). The GM still showed the MSRP, while my buddy countered with a price with tax included (about $7K off MSRP + Tax). He didn't get $7K off, but nonetheless got a very good deal. Just an experience, I will be waiting for the GS300 AWD prices to cool off before buying one.

Umm Ballzz...i hate to break it to ya bro, but if the prices of the new GS models are of those that you came up with...id buy all three and then turn around and sell em for a HUGE profit..and buy a fully loaded GS430 =) Theres no way the prices will be like those...


I could be wrong but i think everyone will agree...

The prices will be at least 2-3K higher on EACH of those model prices you quoted....


flipside909 - wat do u think of my calculation?

I just got off the fone with a sales rep from south bay lexus in california. I spoke with a guy named mario and he told me the pricing he had received on the GS300 AWD. He told me he got this an hour ago from when i called him from a meeting he had on this vehicle and he said these figures were pretty much accurate.


The AWD version is going to be 51K + ttl and fees. This car will only be offered fully loaded. There is no adding of options for this vehicle.

The base GS300 wil be about 43K dollars plus ttl and fees. With wood package, he said 45 plus ttl. (This is the car im getting)

The GS430 is going to be 55k plus ttl. That will come fully loaded, with no options to add on.


This is all he told me. Again, everythign is NEVER concrete until lexus gives the go ahead....

But I contacted an actual representative from the LA autoshowm who I talked extensively on the fone with while watching the new black GS on display. He told me that at the end of this month, they will hjave a company representative from headquarters that will do a "ROAD AND DRIVE" type thing.

The guy is basically going to go around dealer to dealer to show the car before it launches and this is supposed to happen the last week of January. The representative told me it happens about a month and a half before product launch.

Mercedes have already done it on the new CLS...my brother works for mercedes of south bay and saw the car as a company rep drove it around dealership to dealership to show the car. The CLS is releasing in march as well, like the GS.

just got off the phone at south bay as well...they are telling me april 1st. No markups over mrsp, and the loaded 300 will be around 45-46.

April 1st release instead of early March? Akbergg, did this guy say all 3 models would only come fully loaded? I doubt it.

Am I right in thinking the NAV package at about $2,000 would be the most expensive package available? Any other packages that may break $1,000?

Lastly, have exterior color choices been finalized? I seem to recall a thread with colors, but it seemed like they were photoshopped. Also, seemed like a lot of choices, many of which were VERY nice. Reresh my exterior color memory? Thanks.

He told me that at the end of this month, they will hjave a company representative from headquarters that will do a "ROAD AND DRIVE" type thing.

The guy is basically going to go around dealer to dealer to show the car before it launches and this is supposed to happen the last week of January. The representative told me it happens about a month and a half before product launch.


This is nothing new. They do this for every new product that comes out for Toyota or Lexus. AMCI is the company that sets it up. It's a product orientation/demonstration for Lexus dealership employees only.

marcpitch...the GS300 awd and GS430 will be only fully loaded versions from what he told me. The base GS300 will have options to fully load.... (I just wanted the GS300 base with wood package on mine =0)

sorry for the confusion.


I dont know about the colors yet. Im looking for either a Grpahite pearl - flint mica with light gray interior with black wood.... or silver with light gray interior and black wood.....or black with light gray interior with black wood. I was hoping for black with black interior with black wood , but thats proably not going to be offered. Im not concerned with those other colors they had posted on a thread. It looks liek to me that it was done on a photo software to be honest. Im concerned aboutt he gray - flint mica color though. It has not been offered at all on a GS excvept in 02 with the sport package....so i dont know if they realy will offer it now on the 06....I hope they do so i can choose between those three color choices, since i dont care for the other colors =)

Flipside909..the rep who i spoke with at lexus of south bay tonight told me you can get an invitiation to come see the demonstration at the dealership if you request them to.



I like the pricing though....

VERY VERY resonable if it holds true. especially for a totally redesigned car with extra technology included. (Precollision system, bluetooth technology, AFS lighting, keyless ignition, 4 different suspension settings for preference drive modes, brand new engine,, etc..plus much more.....what else can you ask for?

I think if this pricing is very close to the actual....its going to be an PHENOMENAL value by a Lexus product.

Flipside909..the rep who i spoke with at lexus of south bay tonight told me you can get an invitiation to come see the demonstration at the dealership if you request them to.



You mean like product demonstration?Wouldn't mind going to another hehe. The Lexus of Glendale event was more like hurry up and look before TMS takes the car away. As for actual test drive/comparison with the competitor vehicles, AMCI sets up an industry only comparison at a local venue for dealership personel to try out and drive the vehicles. Kind of like a Taste of Luxury event but not open to the general public.

what do u think of the pricing so far guys?




Like i said, if it holds true....it will be a phenomenal value

what do u think of the pricing so far guys?




Like i said, if it holds true....it will be a phenomenal value

So far all I've heard from Park Place(local dealer) is that there would be at least a 10% price increase over the following figures:

2005 GS300: $38900.00 2006 GS300~ $43000.00
2005 GS430: $48000.00 2006 GS430~ $53000.00

The 1st gen. went up about that much in price(although dealers did charge over MSRP back in 1997 especially on the GS400).

I agree with the wait for at least six months idea. Let's see how the RL does(which personally I think is not living up to the hype, and also how Infiniti fills their showrooms with the M).

Just remember one important factor: By investing in a Lexus, you know you will get the best RESALE VALUE for your car!

I have owned Lexus vehicles since 1995 and can attest to that fact. :)