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11-24-04, 12:37 PM
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US Marine kills wounded Insurgent (Terroist) - Petition
An online petition addressed to Congress supporting the Marine who shot a wounded enemy fighter in a Mosque a controversial act caught on videotape and broadcast worldwide has received over 200,000 signatures, according to records on the hosting site.
The petition, created by Alan Swinney, calls on Congress to urge the Pentagon, which is investigating the incident, to spare the Marine shooter from any unwarranted punishment.
Support our Troops!
Sign the Petition
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11-24-04, 02:44 PM
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signed it... I was # 225,000
just wondering... do these online petitions do anything?  I've signed them in the past but they never seem to have an effect..
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11-24-04, 06:26 PM
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I'm not going to pass judgement on this matter yet......let's wait and see what the investigation turns up. If the person he shot was a terrorist or someone linked to terrorism, then of course we should support him...and he should be rewarded. But shooting an unarmed, wounded or otherwise incapacitated enemy soldier...especially if he already surrendered....is a clear violation of both the Geneva convention and the U.S. Military's UCMJ (Uniform code of Military Justice) and is grounds for disciplinary action.
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11-24-04, 07:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by mmarshall
I'm not going to pass judgement on this matter yet......let's wait and see what the investigation turns up. If the person he shot was a terrorist or someone linked to terrorism, then of course we should support him...and he should be rewarded. But shooting an unarmed, wounded or otherwise incapacitated enemy soldier...especially if he already surrendered....is a clear violation of both the Geneva convention and the U.S. Military's UCMJ (Uniform code of Military Justice) and is grounds for disciplinary action.
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He NEVER surrended so don't get ahead of yourself. He was a wounded terrorist and got what he deserved!!
Don't have pity on these radical islamists who would clearly take your life if you happened to blink!
This is Bush country....we shoot first and don't bother to ask questions. (unless you're a liberal  )
He's now enjoying hell with Arafat and his 72 virgins!!
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11-24-04, 07:19 PM
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Dude was in a building with insurgents. Bastard could have had a bomb on him or a trigger to a remote device. Got what he deserved. I wouldn't be taking chances and asking "Are you alright?"
This type of trash doesn't fight with the same honor and valor as other armed forces of the world do. No need to risk it.
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11-24-04, 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by SharpLS-96
He NEVER surrended so don't get ahead of yourself. He was a wounded terrorist and got what he deserved!!
Don't have pity on these radical islamists who would clearly take your life if you happened to blink!
This is Bush country....we shoot first and don't bother to ask questions. (unless you're a liberal )
He's now enjoying hell with Arafat and his 72 virgins!!
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Well, if he was a terrorist and justice was done, hopefully the investigation will show that.
You speak of Bush country....and like you, I am a Bush supporter. But Bush is Commander-in-Chief...and presides over the U.S military, which is governed and regulated by the UCMJ that I spoke of. In the military, you DO shoot. You also sometimes ask questions.
The Bush Administration has kept a lot of prisoners, terrorists, and radical islamists in custody down at Guantanamo....but, to my knowledge, has not executed a single one of them......yet.
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11-24-04, 07:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by mmarshall
Well, if he was a terrorist and justice was done, hopefully the investigation will show that.
You speak of Bush country....and like you, I am a Bush supporter. But Bush is Commander-in-Chief...and presides over the U.S military, which is governed and regulated by the UCMJ that I spoke of. In the military, you DO shoot. You also sometimes ask questions.
The Bush Administration has kept a lot of prisoners, terrorists, and radical islamists in custody down at Guantanamo....but, to my knowledge, has not executed a single one of them......yet.
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Everything you've stated I know.....my Bush comment was sarcasm.
Also, the fact is a great deal of the scum that we have released from Guantanamo Bay have gone right back to attempting to kill coalition troops in Afghanistan.
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"THIS GREAT NATION WILL LEAD THE WORLD AND WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL!" --GEORGE W. BUSH
"I SAY TO OUR ENEMIES: WE ARE COMING! GOD MAY HAVE MERCY ON YOU, BUT WE WON'T!"--JOHN McCAIN
"THE PROBLEM WITH LIBERALS IS NOT THAT THEY'RE IGNORANT-IT'S THAT THEY KNOW SO MUCH THAT ISN'T SO!" --RONALD WILSON REAGAN -- MAY HE R.I.P.
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11-24-04, 07:47 PM
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Also, they weren't using that mosque to face Mecca and pray to Allah when our coalition troops rolled in.
Insurgents in Fallujah Used 66 of the Citys 77 Mosques in Attacks.
Rumsfeld, Myers Detail Iraq Progress
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Nov. 23, 2004 Terrorists and former regime elements used 66 of the 77 mosques in Fallujah as ammunition bunkers and to plan attacks, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said during a press conference today.
Officials said Iraqi soldiers searching the mosques found explosives for making improvised explosive devices, suicide-bomber vests, rocket-propelled grenades, shoulder-fired weapons and small arms and ammunition.
Joint Chiefs Chairman Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers just returned from a visit to Iraq said once the January 30th elections are over in Iraq, the United States can look at the troop numbers in the country.
Myers said that the conditions on the ground will determine the number of troops in Iraq, but said that when people think about troop requirements, they shouldn't just focus on the United States. "Obviously, we're a big part of the troop-contributing nations over there, but Iraq would be next and the coalition would be after that," he said.
Reports from Iraq indicate that Iraqi troops fought well in the recent offensive in Fallujah, Myers said. It comes down to leadership, he said, and the Iraqis are working to build leaders particularly at the colonel and general officer level. "I think we can anticipate them being able to handle more of their own affairs," Myers said. "And that, of course, is, in the end, going to be the goal."
Retaking areas from insurgents remains the key to the elections in January, Rumsfeld said. In Fallujah the process is working, he said, adding, "Operations in Fallujah and elsewhere demonstrate anew the extremism of those opposing Iraqi democracy.
"Over the past two weeks, a single military unit found 191 weapons caches, and 431 improvised explosive devices in one sector of Fallujah alone," Rumsfeld noted. "Soldiers and Marines have found large IED-making facilities, and facilities for making vehicle-borne bombs. They have discovered torture rooms, including one that had a human-size wire cage, and others with bloody handprints on the wall."
The secretary said that attacks will continue, "and perhaps intensify as the Iraqi election approaches." He said extremists have much to lose, "but if the coalition is steadfast, and it will be, eventually we will see the last vestiges of this dying order fade away."
Myers said that intimidation is the preferred tactic of the enemy. "The horrific murder of (British-Iraqi aid worker) Margaret Hassan (around Nov. 16) and other brutal slayings demonstrate the insurgents' determination to go to absolutely any length to prevent Iraqis from stepping forward to assume critical roles at all levels of government," the chairman said.
"Yet courageous Iraqis continue to volunteer to serve in the Iraqi government, and their leadership is absolutely key to their success in Iraq," he continued. "The preponderance of enemy forces are, we think, former regime elements who will stop at nothing to prevent a free and democratic Iraq, yet they have no alternative solution except to rule by terror and by fear."
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In Memory of 9/11/01
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"THIS GREAT NATION WILL LEAD THE WORLD AND WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL!" --GEORGE W. BUSH
"I SAY TO OUR ENEMIES: WE ARE COMING! GOD MAY HAVE MERCY ON YOU, BUT WE WON'T!"--JOHN McCAIN
"THE PROBLEM WITH LIBERALS IS NOT THAT THEY'RE IGNORANT-IT'S THAT THEY KNOW SO MUCH THAT ISN'T SO!" --RONALD WILSON REAGAN -- MAY HE R.I.P.
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11-25-04, 08:44 PM
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Going with the flow...
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I signed it.
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11-26-04, 06:21 AM
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OK...I'm about 98% convinced...I signed it. #242963.
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11-27-04, 09:30 AM
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what amazes me that after this happened, it got some much play on all the news channels. but yet the story about the 3 Marines that were injured by an insurgent "playing" dead didnt get even a little bit of air time. I have to find the article, but that really pissed me off... the negative slant of the media is becoming unbearable.
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