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Old 11-15-04, 01:24 AM   #1
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Bleep the South. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

And now what do we get? We're the Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

Cause we founded this country. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bleep about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were blue-staters. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? (edit...I think he forgot Washington was from Virginia) Think there might be a reason all the monuments are up here in our backyard?

No, No. Get out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this, so don't get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for almost a hundred years" .

Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don't think so. Arrogance is the cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn't be so arrogant if I wasn't paying for your bridges.

All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a bleep," we said, but you had to have your orange juice.

The next person who says, "It’s your money, not the government's money" is gonna get yelled at. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, it’s our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own stop signs.

Let’s talk about those values for a minute. You and your Southern values can bite my butt because the blue states got the values over you Real Americans every day of the week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate? Well? Can you guess? It’s Massachusetts, the center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are blue states, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to guess? 10 of the top 10 are red-ass we're-so-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its part.

But two guys making out is going to ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own. Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we get to hear about it every year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you're towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous bleeps? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain't us up here in the North.

Well this gravy train is over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical BS and shove it.

And no, you can't have your convention in New York next time

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LOL. A little extreme but message delivered.
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Bleep the South. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

And now what do we get? We're the Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

Cause we founded this country. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bleep about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were blue-staters. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? (edit...I think he forgot Washington was from Virginia) Think there might be a reason all the monuments are up here in our backyard?

No, No. Get out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this, so don't get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for almost a hundred years" .

Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don't think so. Arrogance is the cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn't be so arrogant if I wasn't paying for your bridges.

All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a bleep," we said, but you had to have your orange juice.

The next person who says, "It’s your money, not the government's money" is gonna get yelled at. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, it’s our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own stop signs.

Let’s talk about those values for a minute. You and your Southern values can bite my butt because the blue states got the values over you Real Americans every day of the week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate? Well? Can you guess? It’s Massachusetts, the center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are blue states, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to guess? 10 of the top 10 are red-ass we're-so-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its part.

But two guys making out is going to ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own. Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we get to hear about it every year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you're towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous bleeps? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain't us up here in the North.

Well this gravy train is over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical BS and shove it.

And no, you can't have your convention in New York next time

bleep the south (edit it won't even let me hide the url...hint four letter word starting with F and ending with K)


Yep.....that was exactly the message of a lot of Democrats this time. That is why they are the LOSERS.
Enjoy the unemployment line, guys.
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What exactly does that mean? As a business owner I have little fear of the unemployment line.
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What exactly does that mean? As a business owner I have little fear of the unemployment line.
Just being a little sarcastic....and making a point. I usually try to be polite and show some tact and etiquette in my responses, but I thought that some of the stuff in the opening post was just outrageous.
The poster (stckyfngz) was obviously trying to show outright contempt for the conservative point of view...to the point where, in the interest of fairness, I could not...and would not..... let it go unanswered.
I was pointing out that many Democrats who took this same view ended up losers on Election night...and fore a good reason. Any Democrat who thought and spoke like that DESERVED to be a loser. Not the least among them was Tom Daschle, the Senate Democratic leader, and his staff.....He (and quite a few other Democratic politicians)...lost their jobs that night......INCLUDING John Edwards himself, who had resigned from the Senate to run for VP). Kerry, by contrast, at least had his old Senate job to go back to.

And don't think that because you are a buisnessman you are immune from unemployment either. Buisnesses can fail, go bankrupt, be wiped out by storms, sued out of existance ...many things.
Jacques Nasser, chief of Ford and one of the highest-ranking buisnessmen in the country, not long ago was fired. I'm not saying you're a crook, but look at how fast Martha Stewart and the Enron people fell.
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stckyfngz, did you write this? Seems like it's a message quite filled with venom towards the south.

As a southerner, I take personal offense to a lot of this and would like to know if you wrote it or if you're just linking it. If you're linking it, what are your personal thoughts on the message you just posted?
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Bleep the South . . etc.
As a Southerner, that little diatribe is one of the most offensive things I have read short of a press release from Aryan Nation. It is sad that this individual represents him/herself as an American.
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As a Southerner, that little diatribe is one of the most offensive things I have read short of a press release from Aryan Nation. It is sad that this individual represents him/herself as an American.
From South Carolina - agreed.

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From South Carolina - agreed.

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Yes, it's unclear whether stckyfings himself wrote this or just quoted someone else. Either way , it has opened up a can of worms.
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stckyfngz, did you write this? Seems like it's a message quite filled with venom towards the south.

As a southerner, I take personal offense to a lot of this and would like to know if you wrote it or if you're just linking it.
no I didn't write it, it just edited out the cuss words

the website is www.f--kthesouth.com

and I sympathize about the personal offense, I know how you feel being that I'm a liberal on this message board

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If you're linking it, what are your personal thoughts on the message you just posted?
I think it's a bit extreme for my tastes, but i do side (to a lesser degree) with some of the opinions

I don't hate people, waste of time and energy

but I am offended by the notion that southern church goers are: more in "touch" with America along with possessing better morals then us "city" folk out here in "La La Land"...it gets old...Liberal this Liberal that..blah blah blah

but for some hate begets hate and this is a good example
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And don't think that because you are a buisnessman you are immune from unemployment either. Buisnesses can fail, go bankrupt, be wiped out by storms, sued out of existance ...many things.
Not immune but definately better off than most 9 - 5 clock punchers. Our business is growing at an incredible rate and shows no sign of slowing. Living in Vegas, no real storms to speak of and as far as suing or going bankrupt, we're incorporated and the business has less than $10k in assets (2 computers, a couple desks and chairs and a TV/DVD player) so we could just let them have that and open a new corporation. I have my bases well covered.
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Not immune but definately better off than most 9 - 5 clock punchers. Our business is growing at an incredible rate and shows no sign of slowing. Living in Vegas, no real storms to speak of and as far as suing or going bankrupt, we're incorporated and the business has less than $10k in assets (2 computers, a couple desks and chairs and a TV/DVD player) so we could just let them have that and open a new corporation. I have my bases well covered.
The rumor.....and I stress that this is rumor, not necessarily fact....is that the boys from Sicily get a good cut from Las Vegas area buisnesses, and in some cases own them. Same in Atlantic City, NJ.
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Interesting how DIVISIVE that rant is.

I think one thing the author of this fails to realize is that the red states do contain blue voters and the blue states contain red voters. His generalizations are way off base because he would really need to figure out how many married people in the blue states voted blue and vica versa, same for the other topics too.
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The rumor.....and I stress that this is rumor, not necessarily fact....is that the boys from Sicily get a good cut from Las Vegas area buisnesses, and in some cases own them. Same in Atlantic City, NJ.
LOL wouldn't doubt it
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