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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AlDavison
I have the new Pilot Plus as recommended, but now my car goes to the right when I let go of the steering wheel.

Is this normal? My GS350 is a 2008 with 25,000 miles on it now. I didn't have this problem before.

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It may be the tires. Read this: [https://www.clublexus.com/forums/the...-continue.html

If you do not want to read all the posts, make sure you at least read this:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Tires-235...in-Tires-2.htm


You can read my story here. In the end I ended up with PS2s (Don’t think you will find a better tire for rain (summer tire)). I don’t notice the noise any longer and I have 5-6k on them now. If it was not for the drifting, the A/S plus would be a great tire for my car. Good luck and if you have an issue, Michelin is great about taking care of you.

On these cars, the only the toe is adjustable. If it did not do it before, good chance it is the tires. You can check by temporarily moving swapping the tires left to right, right to left. You can only do this as a test since the tires are directional.

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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Oh no!
Everyday I have problems. Every single day!
Does anyone have the phone number to Michelins Tire US of A?
I cannot find their number anywhere. I quest they know that I am next on their list. We shouldn't give away $100 for an alignment that will not work.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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my Pilot AS plus are cool and the gang. I love them so far. I havent had them long but they look fat and mean and seem to track straighter than my Falkens

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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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1-866-866-6605
8 a.m. to 8 p.m. (M-F)
8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. (Sat.)
(Eastern Time)

Were did you get your tires?
Before taking it to far, try the test of swapping the front two tires to see if the pull goes opposite or changes. If your tire place says they want to swap front to back, tell them not to waste their time. Do the swap of the front.

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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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BTW, did your car fall in the recall for the steering rack replacement?
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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This isn't saying much to help you, but coincidentally I have Michelin Pilot Power tires on my motorcycle and they have been the best tires I've ever used - for that purpose, anyway. I have no idea if the same quality carries over to their automotive tires or not.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GS2006
BTW, did your car fall in the recall for the steering rack replacement?
I hope not. I really hope not.

How do I find out?

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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GS2006
1-866-866-6605
8 a.m. to 8 p.m. (M-F)
8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. (Sat.)
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Were did you get your tires?
Sams' Club for $1176 total

You want me to put the front tires on the back and put the back tires on the front?

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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AlDavison
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You want me to put the front tires on the back and put the back tires on the front?

--Al
No, put the left front on the right front and the left front on the right front. If the drift is in the other direction it is the tires. You can only do this as a test since the tires are directional. You must put them back after a test drive.

Did you get your car new? If so, you should of gotten notified if your car is effected. I was just asking if you had it done as they will align your car after.

Oh, what size tires do you have?

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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GS2006

Did you get your car new?

Oh, what size tires do you have?
I bought the car new.

245/40ZR18 93Y Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus

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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 03:38 AM
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I have them on and guees what there perfect. It pulled to the left with old dunlop runflat tires and after new tires and a aligment it still does. So i think i need to go bring it in for service for the TSB
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AlDavison
I bought the car new.

245/40ZR18 93Y Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus

--Al
I had the same tire and same size: Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus 245/40ZR-18 93Y

I would try the test I sugested. Sewell or Park Place?
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GS2006
I would try the test I sugested.
I don't know anyone that would change the tire like you requested because the tire is directional. No one would do it. They would only rotate the front to the back. However, the back tires are on the front now, but the problem still exist. The tire companies are strict down here.
Originally Posted by GS2006
Sewell or Park Place?
Westside Lexus in Houston

However, if I get an alignment and nothing is wrong, the Michelins are gone.

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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AlDavison
I don't know anyone that would change the tire like you requested because the tire is directional. No one would do it. They would only rotate the front to the back. However, the back tires are on the front now, but the problem still exist. The tire companies are strict down here.

Westside Lexus in Houston

However, if I get an alignment and nothing is wrong, the Michelins are gone.

--Al
Yea, I bet they don't want to do it because they think you will not come back and get it put back. They don’t want to hang themselves for liability reasons. Did you tell them for testing only? I bet the dealer will do it for you and test drive as well. They did it for me. They did it to prove it was the tires. Then they called Michelin.
I got mine at DT and they did not want to do it either. It will not hurt the tire, but the tire will not perform in water as disgined.

Given that toe is the only thing that can be adjusted on this car, I'm betting not the align. Toe would have to be totally hosed.

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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Wow - Mine pull to the right too. I have been fighting this for months. The dealer has aligned it several times, the finally reversed them. Car then pulled straight. What's wrong with these tires?
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