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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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I havent read the article yet, but here is their rating on the cars and pros and cons:

5th place: E350 (187 points)
Highs: Strong long-distance cruiser, muscular styling, vault-solid platform.
Lows: Wants 32 more horsepower, too easily upset on turn-in, overeager stability control.
Verdict: The car most likely to impress your neighbors. As always.

4th place: XF (193 points)
Highs: Heavenly ride, a cabin fit for Prince Charles, the face of an angel.
Lows: Cramped back seat, body roll, hockey-puck shifter from hell.
Verdict: An elegant sedan most at home on interstates and Rodeo Drive.

3rd place: M45 (199 points)
Highs: 325 horses, powerful brakes, take-no-prisoners manumatic.
Lows: Funereal cockpit, nonlinear steering, flinty ride.
Verdict: More sporty than luxurious, a sedan in need of a freshening.

2nd place: 535i (214 points)
Highs: Smoothest driveline in the business, a chassis balanced to perfection.
Lows: Small trunk, pricey options, styling that could benefit from an update.
Verdict: A balanced sports sedan that makes its driver look like a hero.

1st place: A6 3.0T (217 points)
Highs: It's a rocket by 2500 rpm, steering that speaks, brakes that listen.
Lows: Tire boom, unexpected ergonomic glitches within.
Verdict: The Jag's luxury, the Infiniti's strength, the BMW's balance.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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From the totals it really was a two car comparo.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
Please talk me out of it I cant be seen driving a Hyundai
Then buy one and wear a mask while you're driving it. With the Genesis, you could do a whole lot worse for your money.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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The new A6 is a handsome sedan. I love it in black with the lemon leather.. The Audi TT RS may pull me in..
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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The Audi TT RS is one nice coupe, 0-60 in 4.5 second.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
i knew this was about audi before i clicked

it's a nice looking car.

but we'll see if it suffers total electronic failure in 5 years.
i had a new a4 the worst car i ever owned

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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Well to be fair the E60 has been out since 2004 with minimal to modest updates.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Interesting that CarandDriver picks an Audi over BMW and likes it's steering better? I'll have to check one out, cuz the A4/A5 did nothing for me as far as steering but that's compared to the 3 series. Actually i liked the (2008/9) IS350's better than the Audi. I've driven a GS @ tastoflexus but cannot recall it's steering.

The 3.0T V6 is supposed to be a great new motor and the A6 is a nice looker especially in black but for me out of the current group, it is the XF i'd have to have.

Wasn't the XF preferred over the 5 series in some other of the mags?

Looking forward to the release of the new Gen 5 series next year's time or sooner or later.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MelF1fan
Wasn't the XF preferred over the 5 series in some other of the mags?

Looking forward to the release of the new Gen 5 series next year's time or sooner or later.

how's the saying go...?

magazine biases are like bungholes... everyone has one.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
Lol, I wish I can. I am actually considering a Genesis for my next car
Originally Posted by dunnojack
oh you're going to hell now..
When I was looking for a new company car, I looked at a few of the cheaper Hyundai's. I was completely stunned at how good the Genesis looked. I'm not sure I could justify full price for the V8 however, as there are several competitors that I would rather be in for that kind of coin.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
Its supercharged, but Audi still calls it a 3.0T engine.
thanks... learn a lot here.

there just seems to be so few supercharged engines on the market these days.

looks great:



but the interior's a bit meh...


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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 06:41 AM
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excuse my ignorance, but what you mean by the interior's a bit meh?
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 06:44 AM
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Probably that despite being beautifully built and executed, the overall design is a bit cold and stark.

Not to mention that the car is a few years old now, and the interior is definitely showing it's age.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MPLexus301
Probably that despite being beautifully built and executed, the overall design is a bit cold and stark.

Not to mention that the car is a few years old now, and the interior is definitely showing it's age.
Well the alumimium trims do make interior seem a bit cold, the wood trim is a bit warmer.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
Well the alumimium trims do make interior seem a bit cold, the wood trim is a bit warmer.
I agree. It looks nicer with woodgrain, though the overall interior is still just sort of "hard" for my tastes, though I find this to be the case with most Audis short of the A8.
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