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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by t.is350.h
I don't know which car is going to win. Is it the GT has like +400 hp?
Nope the GT is the regular v8, it has 300 hp
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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Drivers race.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Ask him to swap vehicles for a minute, then tell him you've won before you even race.... the interior on the current-gen mustangs is -horribly- cheap and unconfortable....granted it costs 10k+ less but you can tell how many corners they cut on the inside of that thing...I'm an old-school muscle and pony car fan from way back (most of my driving life has been with a V8) but after one test drive in the new Mustang I was repulsed by how crappy the experience of being inside one was, no matter that the drive itself was pretty nice.

Performance wise, by the numbers-
Mustang GT Coupe-

3356 lbs curb weight
300 hp @5750 rpms
320 tq @4500 rpms
0-60 in 5.1, 1/4 mile in 13.9@104

Lexus IS350 sedan-

3527 lbs curb weight
306 hp @6400 rpms
277 tq @4800 rpms
0-60 in 5.4, 1/4 mile in 14.0@99.6
(folk on here have certainly run better but it's a decent example of the mag tests)

By the numbers the mustang wins- BUT

The above assumes a manual mustang, perfectly driven. It's pretty rare that happens... and the 5-spd auto in the mustang is kinda crap compared to the 6-spd auto in the Lexus... I'd also put money on VDIM doing a better job than the Ford traction control system in keeping power to the ground. Now, turn VDIM and the Ford T/C off, it's very much a drivers race.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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I have destroyed a new generation GT 3 times...You will have no problems putting your friend to shame lol
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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yeah my friend has one and he's never beat me.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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my friend has an 07 cali edition gt.. he has inake and exhaust.. its a 5 speed and this guy can drive it well.. regardless... i beat him from any speed.. off
the line.. a 20 roll.. 40 roll.. 60 roll

IS350 is faster than a mustang gt.. unless the stang is highly modded

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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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mustang GT? sure win!

dont waste your gas....
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurtz
Ask him to swap vehicles for a minute, then tell him you've won before you even race.... the interior on the current-gen mustangs is -horribly- cheap and unconfortable....granted it costs 10k+ less but you can tell how many corners they cut on the inside of that thing...I'm an old-school muscle and pony car fan from way back (most of my driving life has been with a V8) but after one test drive in the new Mustang I was repulsed by how crappy the experience of being inside one was, no matter that the drive itself was pretty nice.
Although this isn't a mustang forum, I have to disagree COMPLETELY with this statement...at least compared to the previous mustang. The S197 mustang is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than the previous SN95 generation (which I also had). It's like a lexus compared to the last gen

But, I'm glad to see that someone actually posted true stats about the cars. I have an EXTREMELY hard time believing that all these IS350 owners are "destroying" the mustang.

One reason: if someone has a completely stock mustang, they probably could care less about racing, and more about just enjoying their car. Same with the IS350...anyone with a completely stock one probably doesn't care about racing and just likes the car for what it is.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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And, before all of y'all hate and flame:

I DEFEND the IS on the mustang forums if needed (has only happened once), with the same comments that I did in my original post.

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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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Even if you lose, in the end you have a much better car.......overall......in everyway possible...... period.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Coconut
Even if you lose, in the end you have a much better car.......overall......in everyway possible...... period.
if you think like that then why race? you already think you got the better car so no point of wasting your time and gas. If you race then you should give respect to where its due.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Coconut
Even if you lose, in the end you have a much better car.......overall......in everyway possible...... period.
Again...they are two COMPLETELY different cars that are not even competition for each other. It's very unlikely that an IS buyer is going to look at the mustang, and vice versa.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mikes rx
Although this isn't a mustang forum, I have to disagree COMPLETELY with this statement...at least compared to the previous mustang. The S197 mustang is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than the previous SN95 generation (which I also had). It's like a lexus compared to the last gen

But, I'm glad to see that someone actually posted true stats about the cars. I have an EXTREMELY hard time believing that all these IS350 owners are "destroying" the mustang.

One reason: if someone has a completely stock mustang, they probably could care less about racing, and more about just enjoying their car. Same with the IS350...anyone with a completely stock one probably doesn't care about racing and just likes the car for what it is.

I agree the new mustang is much nicer on the inside than the previous generation.

But that says more bad things about the previous gen than good things about the new one.

I test drove about 10 cars before buying my IS350. The 07 Mustang GT was the only one that simply sitting in it without even turning it on made me ABSOLUTELY not want to own it. I only drove it to be polite to the sales person. (and honestly with the engine on the car's a lot more fun...the sitting in it is HORRID... crap cheap plastic everywhere, my knees had -zero- room side to side and I'm not especially tall, rear entry was terrible even for a 2-door, and did I mention the crap plastic interior that looked like even GM wouldn't have used it in the 90s?

The dash cluster was very pretty though, nice and retro.

The seats themselves weren't bad either.

Everything else inside the car...horrid.

I'm not joking when I say a Suzuki Aero I once was forced to use as a rental had a vastly nicer and higher quality interior as far as plastics, panels, etc.

It was that bad.

Beautiful engine, dash, and exterior looks... rest was crap.

It was funny... my wife, after we'd disappointedly driven an Avalon and one of the new 287hp camrys (both north of 30k) and then more happily had driven an Acura Tl-S, said (about the Acura) 'Now that's the first one that felt like a $30,000 car on the inside." and later made similar remarks on the G35 sport and IS350 we drove.

After the mustang she reminded me of this and said (about the mustang) "that one felt like a $3,000 car on the inside"
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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my friends cali edition gt.. has nice interior in my opinon.. its 2 tone.. has chrome and aluminum accents.. i think its pretty nice.. but.. the point of this thread is to know which car is faster.. the IS350 is.. end of story
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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^I guess it's all relative. Since I'm a mustang fan, the S197 was brilliant compared to the previous gen, which is the reason I sold my 2000 for the 05.

Is it better made than any decent import (accord, camry, lexus)...probably not. Although, to me at least, it's certainly not bad
Is it better than other domestic (chevy, other fords, etc)...most definitely.

Is it faster than the IS350.....I'm honestly not sure. Like I said, I think the mustang is faster off the line (and yes, I'm a pretty good manual driver). But, the Lexus has electronics that make it faster from a highway roll.

The rocket up your butt feeling that the IS gives you from a highway roll is the same feeling that the GT gives you off the line.

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